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  • wheatley

    I'd say the steamers that made it are really not that entertaining & talented, they get to the top by appealing to the lowest denominator and making braindead content or really not making any they just do react slop which is 100% content thievery

    Speed is the exception though, bro legit a content machine

    not really, speed is a great beloved entertainer and kai came up being a lovable unique funny ass guy though hes more corporate now the guy somehow has infinite energy streaming every single day hours of his day hes on camera constantly making moments and entertaining people and coming up with fresh gimmicks or ideas. max has a unique personality, a love for music, hes very tapped in, and he has a unique innovative format that has been good for music.

    being entertaining every single day in front of a camera for hours unedited and keeping it fresh every time is NOT a simple task for an entertainer.

  • Andre Jaquet

    what does that even mean

    I think it means streamers have taken the place of rappers in the current youth culture.

  • Jul 6
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    Nayuta

    Nah you take the highest earning rappers and compare them to Kai, Speed, or whoever else and it's not gonna be close

    People like Travis, Drake, Kendrick are hitting well over 50 million annually

    Kai Cenat and Speed only really reached this notoriety and fame in the last year or so, only been streaming what 5 years? Aforementioned rappers had to be 10+ years in the game to get those bags. It’s not comparable.

  • Durag Jesus

    Rappers have always been money oriented

    The forefathers of the genre used to wear chains bigger than their heads

    And there's always been gimmick rappers. It's just that the talented people nowadays go for other lucrative fields, streaming being one of them because it's easier to do content and faster to make money.

    No… the chains came from d*** dealers in the early 70s and 80s. Rappers were emulating them.

  • Jul 6
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    Durag Jesus

    And that's why you have a lack of good rappers currently. There's more money to be made as a streamer, so all the talented entertainers are streamers instead of anything else nowadays

    Streamers are not talented entertainers what

  • Jul 6
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    Dino

    Streamers are not talented entertainers what

    That's pretty subjective. Rappers weren't even considered actual musicians by a lot of white people until the early-mid 90s.

  • No. They are streamers.

  • Durag Jesus

    And that's why you have a lack of good rappers currently. There's more money to be made as a streamer, so all the talented entertainers are streamers instead of anything else nowadays

    You say this like the skills needed to be a musician have a very large overlap wirh the skills needed to stream. That just isn't true

  • Delete all streamer threads please.

  • Nayuta

    Streaming platforms don't make money. What is costs to maintain all that s*** and save VODs makes it impossible to draw a profit from.

    Twitch operates at a loss for Amazon
    Youtube has never made a profit for Google
    Kick is just to funnel people into gambling

    All those companies are fine with taking the loss for obvious reasons

    A profit is possible, but it's a long road because these companies haven't properly figured out how to monetize all them eyeballs.

    YouTube has finally been profitable the past 4-5 years now and Twitch especially at its current momentum since COVID will probably follow in the next several years as Amazon figures s*** out.

    As for kick, God knows

  • Jul 6
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    Iron Lion Zion

    That's pretty subjective. Rappers weren't even considered actual musicians by a lot of white people until the early-mid 90s.

    U think streamers who spend they time reacting to youtube vids and playing video games are talented?

  • They both benefit from each other streamers can't rap and rappers can't stream

  • Dino

    U think streamers who spend they time reacting to youtube vids and playing video games are talented?

    I get what you're saying, but that's up to the sponsors keeping their pockets full to decide.

  • Dino

    U think streamers who spend they time reacting to youtube vids and playing video games are talented?

    I think keeping people’s attention is a talent in its own way

    I think Speed is the most talented one of them all but Kai’s charisma and curation is a talent in a way

  • god just end f***ing human race rn. we are done climate change hurry the f*** up and kill all of us

  • cinna the new nicki??

  • Jul 6
    Durag Jesus

    Tyler is 40 and Speed is barely 18 brother

    How old are Pharrell and three stacks

  • Jul 6
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    streamers get hot and become… rappers

    this convo never gon get to where y’all want it to go lol

  • Jul 6
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    timvocalsstan

    streamers get hot and become… rappers

    this convo never gon get to where y’all want it to go lol

    People forget that rapping is way cooler than streaming lmao
    Not just about the money
    Being infront of a camera for hours reacting to s*** will never feel cool bc its the opposite of being effortless

  • Marx would have a heart attack if he saw streaming
    The ultimate alienation

  • Nah

  • Dino

    Streamers are not talented entertainers what

    the good ones are

  • Durag Jesus

    Tyler is 40 and Speed is barely 18 brother

    Big age gap hasn't stopped Tyler before

  • Courtside

    Niggas will complain about the value of music declining while also disrespecting the art by not acknowledging the difference between a streamer and a rapper

  • Dino

    Streamers are not talented entertainers what

    being talented is not enough to make something emotionally resonant (which is what good rap does)

    I don't mean that in just making people cry, but the motivational top of the world euphoric feelings of rap are basically unrivalled in any other art form