Doubtful

Who?

Yep. Just like this one about dada ye.

I'd rather they retire than drop a dud.

But I'm not sure what you mean by hip hop improving though.

Ye canceled himself out of the game last year and Eminem is already semi-retired.

The rap world is already moving past them tbh while ironically starting to fall off commercially.

As of 2023, Chief Keef, Carti, and Thugger's influence is far more felt in mainstream rap than Ye's and Em's with some exceptions to the rule such as Utopia.

"my goal is to be high by 10am"

Exclusive product release don’t count

Ye is not cancelled out the rap game

Like it or not whenever these guys drop media pays attention to it extensively

If they stopped dropping we could free up that commercial space for better artists

Bro can't even get a distro deal for a Ty Dolla Sign collab album he is cooked

My dude it was released just on a weird platform

"Apple or Spotify link"

My dude what did you do for music in the limewire age?

Being cancelled out the rap game would mean no one f***s with you anymore

Everyone except drake is still f***s with him

fwiw the goal was achieved

gonna run it back in a few minutes

Obviously pusha t and kid cudi wouldn't work with him at this moment either, but I meant all the prevalent people currently

Wild because Kid Cudi, Mike Dean, Def Jam, Universal, Jay Z, and Pusha T have all severed ties with him

Got it in before you :)

I mean....distribution is backing away from him. Def Jam is backing away from him. Many mainstream stars are backing away from him. Mike Dean is backing away from him. And Spotify almost dropped him.

He may not be fully cancelled but he's definitely been stunted to a big degree.

Is it 2007? No so counting a demo album he released as a part of his discography disingenuous.

Bout to take an edible

No official indication of that being a demo though?

The fact it was sold for a product kinda shows a different angle

Thread got incoherent as hell fast lol

He was already gone from def jam and we don't know what the status of his distribution is, which stars except drake which was already the case pre controversy?

Why would current day Em and Kanye’s musical output impact the fabric of current hiphop in any significant way to begin with?

Truly insane to me how there are people getting mad at criticizing 2023 Kanye or Eminem, albeit in a severe and perhaps somewhat reactionary way

It's not exactly a completely baseless opinion to think that these guys should seriously leave the culture alone because they've overstayed their welcomes. I'm just taking the fact that these guys have fallen off creatively, and are really dubious as public figures culturally, to its logical conclusion

This makes no sense whatsoever and now I know you're likely just trolling.

Drake is currently the biggest rapper out today by far and Drake fans will never let you forget that lol.

Ye and Em are OG's at this point. They'll get attention for their music but not quite on the level of the newer guys or the "Big 3."

Rappers blow up from clout chasing, gimmicks, viral songs, and fans everyday B. Ye and Em aren't holding them back in the slightest.

Drake's the real Juggernaut in 2023.

Would you have said the same about Jay Z before 4:44 dropped?