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  • Nov 19, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    What artists has Ken Carson inspired?

    Artists of his ilk, not him directly

  • Nov 19, 2023
    SegaDreamFlash

    Artists of his ilk, not him directly

    Carti and Yeat are influential but that's about it from that sound lol

  • Nov 19, 2023
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    I'm not even trying to sound like an "old head" here but it's just a fact that most rappers after the Big 3(Kendrick, Drake, Cole) have yet to capture their essence and bring as much excitement to the genre as them.

    A lot of newer rappers just aren't making that much of a big dent in the genre to say that hip hop will be in good hands if Ye and Eminem stay away from music.

    Juicy J already confirmed that rap sales were down 40%. We see many young rappers cancelling their shows. We see tons of rappers including in younger ages like Yachty claiming that the genre is in a bad place(and he's not referring to Ye or Em).

    I personally enjoy Carti but even I sometimes doubt if he'll be able to sustain his momentum. But he seems to take his music seriously so I'll keep my hopes up.

    There's a reason why Old Man Em and Old Man Ye still have the most Spotify listeners in rap after Drake and Doja. Even Travis who just dropped the biggest album this year has less.

  • Nov 19, 2023
    Bobby_96

    I'm not even trying to sound like an "old head" here but it's just a fact that most rappers after the Big 3(Kendrick, Drake, Cole) have yet to capture their essence and bring as much excitement to the genre as them.

    A lot of newer rappers just aren't making that much of a big dent in the genre to say that hip hop will be in good hands if Ye and Eminem stay away from music.

    Juicy J already confirmed that rap sales were down 40%. We see many young rappers cancelling their shows. We see tons of rappers including in younger ages like Yachty claiming that the genre is in a bad place(and he's not referring to Ye or Em).

    I personally enjoy Carti but even I sometimes doubt if he'll be able to sustain his momentum. But he seems to take his music seriously so I'll keep my hopes up.

    There's a reason why Old Man Em and Old Man Ye still have the most Spotify listeners in rap after Drake and Doja. Even Travis who just dropped the biggest album this year has less.

    We see many young rappers cancelling their shows.

    the underground is in a sore spot in terms of live shows right now

  • Nov 19, 2023
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    Al Supremo

    Here's a theory- The reason why hip hop is dying is because everyone bet on the backpackers as the future of hip hop. Prior to that, there's a reason why the street and gangsta mc's were on top for a long time. They had that hunger to keep wanting to release music. Once the torch was passed to the more "conscious" type of mc, things got a bit sour imo.

    … what conscious rappers are you talking about?

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    JeffersonSteelflex

    … what conscious rappers are you talking about?

    Generally speaking but the ones that everyone hyped up and never release material.

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    Al Supremo

    Generally speaking but the ones that everyone hyped up and never release material.

    Name them

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    JeffersonSteelflex

    Name them

    To name a few, K dot, Tyler, Earl, Cole

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    Al Supremo

    To name a few, K dot, Tyler, Earl, Cole

    Oh yes.. tyler and earl who rarely get radio play!! Sure, they’re the reason why rap isn’t growing.

  • Nov 20, 2023
    JeffersonSteelflex

    Oh yes.. tyler and earl who rarely get radio play!! Sure, they’re the reason why rap isn’t growing.

    I hear Tyler on the radio plenty also he won a grammy

  • Nov 20, 2023
    JeffersonSteelflex

    … what conscious rappers are you talking about?

    Lmao Just blowing it out his ass

  • Skinn Foley

    stop liking things I don't like!






  • Nov 20, 2023
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    Al Supremo

    Generally speaking but the ones that everyone hyped up and never release material.

    Tyler usually releases and album every 2 years tho lol how is that never releasing

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    SegaDreamFlash

    Tyler usually releases and album every 2 years tho lol how is that never releasing

    2 years is a long time. MC's used to normally release an album yearly or at least 18 months. And there are some that still do. Like Youngboy NBA or Drake. But with a 2 year wait between albums today's fan will most likely lose interest in the artist and move on to something else. Hype for things dies quickly in the 2020's.

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    OP yet again created a good bait thread by bringing up rappers he claims he doesn't like that much. Gotta give him props for that.

    But OP still hasn't addressed who Yachty was referring to when he recently said the rap game today was in bad shape.

    Was he subbing Em and Ye or was he referring to his own peers?

    Seems like the OP is more out of touch than he realizes.

  • KEV 🟢
    Nov 20, 2023
    doot doot

    @Kev @Magenta very very soon…

    Extremely Powerful and Truthful thread.

    Soon Inshallah

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    Ye really is at Em levels of trash as a rapper. Hang it up buddy!

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    2words

    Ye really is at Em levels of trash as a rapper. Hang it up buddy!

    And yet they both have more monthly listeners than any rapper under 30 not named Doja Cat without an album dropping.

    The newer school is supposed to surpass them by now but they still overshadow most of the young rappers while falling off musically and being semi-retired.

  • Nov 20, 2023
    Bobby_96

    And yet they both have more monthly listeners than any rapper under 30 not named Doja Cat without an album dropping.

    The newer school is supposed to surpass them by now but they still overshadow most of the young rappers while falling off musically and being semi-retired.

    Fame kills

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    Al Supremo

    2 years is a long time. MC's used to normally release an album yearly or at least 18 months. And there are some that still do. Like Youngboy NBA or Drake. But with a 2 year wait between albums today's fan will most likely lose interest in the artist and move on to something else. Hype for things dies quickly in the 2020's.

    Tyler keeps his fanbase tho. And that’s not a fully true statement cuz artists like Nas had a 2 year release schedule in the 90s

  • Nov 20, 2023
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    2words

    Ye really is at Em levels of trash as a rapper. Hang it up buddy!

    This is just not true lol you clearly have a bias against Kanye cause you love Drake so damn much

  • SegaDreamFlash

    Tyler keeps his fanbase tho. And that’s not a fully true statement cuz artists like Nas had a 2 year release schedule in the 90s

    Mfs had to wait 2 years for Tribe records and still remained interested in them until they as a group couldn’t keep it together so idk what he’s even talking about lmaoo

  • forced and necessary ye west retirement soon inshallah