rvi

5y

mmm he didnt tho

Fries

5y

That fighting talk?

Bowie's influence on the music scene was huge, the guy WAS the moment, 80s pop would have looked and sounded completely different if the artists of the era didn't grow up listening to him

Bowie's 70s work is a great reflection of the music of the decade overall, whether he was creating trends or following them, his stuff acts as a mirror for a decade in a way that The Beatles discography did imo

As I've gotten older there's some of his stuff I don't come back to so much, but he was definitely one of the most important artists of his era

Fries

5y

That fighting talk?

Bowie's influence on the music scene was huge, the guy WAS the moment, 80s pop would have looked and sounded completely different if the artists of the era didn't grow up listening to him

Bowie's 70s work is a great reflection of the music of the decade overall, whether he was creating trends or following them, his stuff acts as a mirror for a decade in a way that The Beatles discography did imo

As I've gotten older there's some of his stuff I don't come back to so much, but he was definitely one of the most important artists of his era

Elric

5y

yeah but zappa

Fries

5y

That fighting talk?

Bowie's influence on the music scene was huge, the guy WAS the moment, 80s pop would have looked and sounded completely different if the artists of the era didn't grow up listening to him

Bowie's 70s work is a great reflection of the music of the decade overall, whether he was creating trends or following them, his stuff acts as a mirror for a decade in a way that The Beatles discography did imo

As I've gotten older there's some of his stuff I don't come back to so much, but he was definitely one of the most important artists of his era

Elric

5y

kraftwerk get credit for the 80s more than anybody imo

and way more often than not bowie was following trends but like beatles and kanye he was able to take currents and crystallize them into a masterfully realized iconic package that goes way beyond what any of those trends were likely to achieve anyway

rvi

5y

not trying to s*** on him at all just dont think he dominated the decade (possibly the goat decade) or was beatles level

Fries

5y

Haha, STS is elite man, title track is top 2 Bowie, unreal atmosphere

Real for Aladdin Sane

Those muddy vocals on Watch That Man

The guy ruled an entire decade on a Beatles level

Fries

5y

I'm definitely one of those 'love his instrumental stuff, can't get into his vocals' guys, Hot Rats is unbelievable but even the Mothers stuff doesn't work much for me, wish I could get more out of it

I'm curious tho why you'd say he was so important, don't know much about Zappa's history

Galaxy de list mon

5y

I don't even like the Beatles and I disagree. Beatles WERE the zeitgeist of the 60s. Bowie was a big part of the overall 70s zeitgeist but he was not the only one moving the cultural needle and certainly not as historically as the Beatles were a decade prior (my bias against their music aside)

Galaxy de list mon

5y

Are we talking musical or cultural impact? Musically speaking, Bealtes didn't really change s***, whereas Bowie teamed up with Eno and Visconti and made some albums much better by any of those by the Beatles. Culturally, Beatles are untouchable

rvi

5y

not really denying his influence, although i still do feel like he was influenced by others more than he innovated himself. not that its a bad thing of course, but i dont think i could call him one of the most influential of the period musically speaking. of course his style of artistry and evolution was very influential but thats sort of a different convo imo

his discography just grew off me a bit over the years. still think hes a true great but just not an all time goat or definitive best of the 70s. for example Ziggy I used to herald a a masterpiece but it shrank on me a bit, now i'd say i might prefer a few other glam rock artists to that. still think Low and Station to Station are solidified masterpieces and among the best of the decade

Elric

5y

Dylan WAS for the 60s too tho

Fries

5y

The New Romantics style did entirely stem from David Bowie themed nights at clubs but that's a v good point about Kraftwerk, they were a paradigm shift for sure

I agree that as you find out more you realise Bowie was super unoriginal and stuff like Warswaza was pretty much just an Eno solo piece, but I deffo think he acted as a good indicator of the times, artists like Bowie and The Beatles are amplifiers more than innovators imo, but that's important itself, until Sgt Pepper's, how many people in the UK had listened to a full Raga song?

Imo they're super important for (and endlessly discussed by) music critics because of their ability to bring new ideas to the masses and their pretty much decade-long runs provide a neat way to a***yse an entire decade of music through the prism of their discography. That's why I'd say Bowie is the most important artist of the 70s, not the best or most innovative, but the most significant for what he represents

Galaxy de list mon

5y

trueeeee. 60s were something else man. I don't think a single artist could ever change culture as much as those did.

Edit: Thugger invented music

Galaxy de list mon

5y

get you someone who slanders you as much as deadpeg slanders Exile

Elric

5y

well there was Elvis in the 50s

Galaxy de list mon

5y

not gonna do 60 or 70? I'll save your list and if you want to add more feel free

Galaxy de list mon

5y

First time in ktt2 history that the first list given to me in full wasn't Aruji