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    Nessy

    obviously. being religious makes you less likely to kys though

    also suicide is cultural and contagious, so when famous people end it they start trends of suicides and countries that never had suicides now have them because charismatic people did it and inspired others

    Does being religious make you less likely to be suicidal or they just gaslight their suicidal followers by claiming they’ll burn in hell for eternity if they do it?

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    would be less prevalent for sure

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    iHype

    Does being religious make you less likely to be suicidal or they just gaslight their suicidal followers by claiming they’ll burn in hell for eternity if they do it?

    Gives you something to live for

  • Valentine

    because for the prophecy to be fulfilled, one of those close to him would have to fall victim to weakness but he never said who

    so there was literally a 1/12 chance it could have been Judas

    who out of his own deliberate choices that God did not make him choose, it led to the fulfillment of the prophecy

    but this isn’t as important or comparable to the sacrifice that Jesus made, as this is what fulfills the ultimate prophecy. the prophecy leads to Jesus, it can’t be above

    I'm not only referring to Jesus at the last supper. The 30 pieces of silver is foretold in books of the old Testament too, Exodus (explains the price of a slave that era) and Zechariah. These were written before Jesus/the disciples lived

    I get what you're saying, it was still Judas' choice. But how just is it to hold him fully accountable for choosing it when it resulted in Jesus dying for all of humanity's sins like God wanted and it was hinted towards by prophets (influenced by God/the Holy spirit when making the prophecies)

    Hypothetically, could Judas have exercised his free will and decided to give the 30 pieces of silver back before actually betraying Jesus or kiss someone else on the cheek when the result was what God wanted to happen and it was prophecised by authors of the Old Testament?

    I guess your thinking is Judas' actions determined the prophecies rather than the other way around. My thinking is how much say did Judas (or whoever would lead to Jesus being sacrificed) really have when God/Moses/Zechariah/Jesus indicated it would happen

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    Mór

    Gives you something to live for

    Eh I think if they had to start telling ppl they’ll burn in hell for suicide that would mean religion in itself wasn’t enough for ppl to be living for lol

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    iHype

    Eh I think if they had to start telling ppl they’ll burn in hell for suicide that would mean religion in itself wasn’t enough for ppl to be living for lol

    Sure but I’m Catholic and I don’t believe in Hell. Religion is luckily more complex than that

  • May 9
    TesticleSpectacles

    I'm not only referring to Jesus at the last supper. The 30 pieces of silver is foretold in books of the old Testament too, Exodus (explains the price of a slave that era) and Zechariah. These were written before Jesus/the disciples lived

    I get what you're saying, it was still Judas' choice. But how just is it to hold him fully accountable for choosing it when it resulted in Jesus dying for all of humanity's sins like God wanted and it was hinted towards by prophets (influenced by God/the Holy spirit when making the prophecies)

    Hypothetically, could Judas have exercised his free will and decided to give the 30 pieces of silver back before actually betraying Jesus or kiss someone else on the cheek when the result was what God wanted to happen and it was prophecised by authors of the Old Testament?

    I guess your thinking is Judas' actions determined the prophecies rather than the other way around. My thinking is how much say did Judas (or whoever would lead to Jesus being sacrificed) really have when God/Moses/Zechariah/Jesus indicated it would happen

    what I’m saying is, if Judas chose to say no, destiny would have fallen on one of the other disciples as the prophecy was inevitable

    kind of like endgame where she said no matter what you do to fix the timeline, it always corrects itself

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    Horrendous question + thread

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    niggas citing judas in here

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    Julio Caesar

    Horrendous question + thread

    sports sxn poster

  • interesting question, if all your material needs were met as the standard it'd take a lot more at least

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    how about u find out

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    Gangnam Style

    how about u find out

  • Nessy 🦎
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    iHype

    Does being religious make you less likely to be suicidal or they just gaslight their suicidal followers by claiming they’ll burn in hell for eternity if they do it?

    This doesnt make sense

  • Sally Acorn

    sports sxn poster

    What’s your point

  • Esponja 🧽
    May 9

    capitalism needs to commit suicide

  • Nessy

    This doesnt make sense

    It does you just need to read it slower perhaps lol.

    Religious ppl still experience suicidal thoughts and want to attempt, hence why religion started telling them they’ll burn in hell eternally if they do it in order to combat that. It’s not necessarily that religion helps stop the idea of suicide for many (nor makes them happy/fulfilled), religion just makes them more scared to do it by implying there’s after-life consequences.

  • lystrav2

    Niggas happy to live longer only to die from cancer slowly

    U gotta think what makes life worth living? Cus capitalism stripped a lot of that away and replaced it with materialism and classism

    Ding ding ding

  • TesticleSpectacles

    But whoever that person was, would have done so to have the son of God killed, as God wanted and as prophets (influenced by God) predicted. Their choice was their own but how much choice do you really have when the creator of this entire universe and everything in it wanted the result to happen and even foretold that your (whether Judas or someone else) actions were the cause of it?

    Also seen a theory that Judas was possessed by Satan and that's why he betrayed Jesus. You can argue that he was weak and that's what allowed him to be controlled by the devil/greed but it feels odd to hold someone fully accountable when the plan would not have occurred without their actions and there's supernatural spiritual forces like God/Satan at play

    The gnostic view of Judas is the most interesting tbh

  • yes

    erasing capitalism doesn’t cure being ugly

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    lystrav2

    Art is a huge thing for me, it inspires me and keeps me feeling like life is interesting

    Chatgpt ahh reply

  • Sally Acorn

    She was my awakening at 6 years old

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    ferris

    i really believe most of the adults in the world who wanna die are just tired of living to work or have goals that they can’t reach because they don’t have the right financial resources

    the only other reason i can come up with is maybe to get out of a life prison sentence. even things like grieving a loved one you can argue as people not being able to afford therapy or medication to address their emotions

    no there’s a lot of other social isolation going ont

  • mojojojo

    Chatgpt ahh reply

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