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  • SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻
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    Jim Halpert

    naturally.

    at the workplace right now though so plugged into a wall somewhere

    why are you browsing KTT on your work computer?

  • Celebrity sextapes and mixtapes disappeared around the same time

  • SABMAN TURNT

    why are you browsing KTT on your work computer?

    My names on the building.

  • raps

    The larger rap game probably early 2010’s like 2014, i remember it started being less projects like SFG More Abt Nothing Yellow Album bc people started to peep those tapes were better than peoples albums

    I dont think it stopped in the south/southeast trap type rappers until maybe 2016-17 when Spinrilla and LiveMixtapes started redirecting you to streaming services when you tried to download

    I feel like institutionalized was the last real tape like that. I knew sum was off when Gucci and Uzi dropped their collab tape in like 2017-2018 and it came and went

    pretty sure they took that tape down from streaming and everything a few years ago

  • 2016 was the last year niggas was bumping mixtapes

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    • Rise of artists releasing albums as mixtapes (Nostalgia Ultra, B******, Weeknd Trilogy, Chance, A$ap, art.dealer.chic eps, IFYRT, probably way more)

    • Rise of streaming, combined with Drake releasing IYRT or Chance’s Coloring Book as “commercial mixtapes”. This to me felt like the death knell for the term imo. It was no longer different than an album streaming-wise

  • you can get copyright strike automatically nowadays

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    everyday yal mourning bout the same old s***

    wats the benefit of artists puttin out a free tape in this economy rather than jus uploading it to tier 1 spotify and at least getting cents on the $ for it

  • When you could get paid for them on bandcamp or distrokid

  • I think the lines started getting blurred with streaming when an artist would drop a project full of original music on streaming but be considered a "mixtape" rather than an album starting with IYRTITL, You Should Be Here by Kehlani, Coloring Book by Chance, Barter 6, etc. When you search them all up they're considered "commercial mixtapes" and they went straight to streaming. I feel like the casual fan wouldn't know the difference and would just call them albums.

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    herald

    everyday yal mourning bout the same old s***

    wats the benefit of artists puttin out a free tape in this economy rather than jus uploading it to tier 1 spotify and at least getting cents on the $ for it

    None

    That’s why no young artists strive to create consistently great projects.

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    Jim Halpert

    None

    That’s why no young artists strive to create consistently great projects.

    second sentence a lie and doomer generalization.
    causation needs to be proven

    also not hearing wat incentivized them to do so before that doesnt also exist today nor any proposals for a future that would change this supposed attitude.

  • Obviously when streaming became a thing

  • herald

    second sentence a lie and doomer generalization.
    causation needs to be proven

    also not hearing wat incentivized them to do so before that doesnt also exist today nor any proposals for a future that would change this supposed attitude.

    That’s how artists gained fanbases before

    If it’s still happening name them

  • herald

    everyday yal mourning bout the same old s***

    wats the benefit of artists puttin out a free tape in this economy rather than jus uploading it to tier 1 spotify and at least getting cents on the $ for it

    amen

    (+) soundcloud exists

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    herald

    everyday yal mourning bout the same old s***

    wats the benefit of artists puttin out a free tape in this economy rather than jus uploading it to tier 1 spotify and at least getting cents on the $ for it

    You mean .003 cents.

  • SetonYMCAHelpdesk2

    death note fking sucks when they lose their memory and act clueless its some of the laziest writing ever

    That’s when the real s*** happens (queerbait)

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    Jim Halpert

    You mean .003 cents.

    Good point, it's better than $0 though

    And the amount of lost/unorganized media because of the unclearable songs/platforms getting shut down is pretty heartbreaking.

    I'm not Pro-Spotify..But I am Pro archiving/Monetization

    At the end of the day there should be some type of modern platform that is built for mixtapes that counters the corporate red tapes, and offers free music or paywalling/subscription..

    I think Untitled is trying to be that. But it isn't organized like Datpiff.

    Hopefully someone figures it out.

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    lonny860

    Good point, it's better than $0 though

    And the amount of lost/unorganized media because of the unclearable songs/platforms getting shut down is pretty heartbreaking.

    I'm not Pro-Spotify..But I am Pro archiving/Monetization

    At the end of the day there should be some type of modern platform that is built for mixtapes that counters the corporate red tapes, and offers free music or paywalling/subscription..

    I think Untitled is trying to be that. But it isn't organized like Datpiff.

    Hopefully someone figures it out.

    You could debate it’s better than $0

    How are these new artists coming up doing comparing to those that came up dropping mixtapes for free?

  • When IYRTITL came out and finding out it was supposed to be a Gangsta Grillz mixtape was pretty much the beginning of the end of mixtapes.

    Especially considering at the time buying mixtapes off iTunes was still taboo.

    Yeah Gucci also sold NoDJ versions of his mixtapes from iTunes, but the trickle down from IYRT for sure accelerated it.

    Doesn’t help at all that it went Gold first week lol

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    Jim Halpert

    You could debate it’s better than $0

    How are these new artists coming up doing comparing to those that came up dropping mixtapes for free?

    I mean some of these artist's eating pretty good off of getting Youtube money on top of all the DSPS and actually being able to register the songs for Publishing/Mechanicals etc..there's more accessibility to build an actual independent business with all of these things at hand.

    I think there are some artist's doing way better and building better businesses all around now vs. then.

    But the keyword is some, because clearly some artist's from the era went on to be legends and paving the way for some of the tactics used to be successful in todays terrain, like Wayne, Drake, Curren$y, Gucci, etc..the list goes on.

    So I would say better artist have come from the Mixtape era so far (easily)..but the conditions to build a business of rap independently are in a better place.

    Example: Baby Smoove..been indy for close to a decade now. Streams MILLIONS a week. Easily bringing in like 30-50K a month based off catalog alone.

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    herald

    everyday yal mourning bout the same old s***

    wats the benefit of artists puttin out a free tape in this economy rather than jus uploading it to tier 1 spotify and at least getting cents on the $ for it

    In a vacuum yea sure sounds great. Smaller artists do it all the time. But the reality is that once an artist gets big enough people are gonna want to be compensated. It being "free" sidestepped most if not all copyright laws, allowing artists complete freedom of expression. Think about how expensive it would be to bring a tape like Da Drought 3 to streaming properly. And that's why it's not there

  • lonny860

    I mean some of these artist's eating pretty good off of getting Youtube money on top of all the DSPS and actually being able to register the songs for Publishing/Mechanicals etc..there's more accessibility to build an actual independent business with all of these things at hand.

    I think there are some artist's doing way better and building better businesses all around now vs. then.

    But the keyword is some, because clearly some artist's from the era went on to be legends and paving the way for some of the tactics used to be successful in todays terrain, like Wayne, Drake, Curren$y, Gucci, etc..the list goes on.

    So I would say better artist have come from the Mixtape era so far (easily)..but the conditions to build a business of rap independently are in a better place.

    Example: Baby Smoove..been indy for close to a decade now. Streams MILLIONS a week. Easily bringing in like 30-50K a month based off catalog alone.

    Pretty good example honestly

  • Willie Wildcat

    carti and che restoring the feeling

    Che it’s not restoring no type of feeling
    🖕🤣

    Nigga is ass