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  • insertcoolnamehere

    Until you listen to the actual lyrics lmao

    That’s a different thing

    Nobody said they’re skilled lyricists

    But to say they aren’t rapping, like the actual act of rapping, is not true

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    raps

    Fundamentally that autotune post trap music is a lot of the times just not actual hip hop rap music

    I know that sounds reductive but that truth is necessary for actual hip hop/rap to survive, which again i know sounds like some old head s*** but A song like xo tour life or the post carti pre-MUSIC s*** that every young artist copies is a whole new genre its no way for that music to be counted as rap and the youth give a f*** about actual lyrics at the same time lol

    Its hair metal all over again

    Genres grow and change over time though

    Yes all of them have songs that are more melodic-driven, not denying that

    But all of them also have plenty of songs where they’re literally just rapping on them

    If you wanna say that it’s not very skilled rapping then that’s a different convo

  • Let’s not forget that hip-hop did not start out as a lyrical genre, that was an evolution, not the genesis

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    shaleirose

    Genres grow and change over time though

    Yes all of them have songs that are more melodic-driven, not denying that

    But all of them also have plenty of songs where they’re literally just rapping on them

    If you wanna say that it’s not very skilled rapping then that’s a different convo

    Nobody really considers Drake an R&B artist because he has a lot of songs singing/making R&B

    But its not so much about saying that they arent rappers just that most of their music isn’t rap. At times they can be rappers but all of that melodically driven post trap music should have been considered a whole new genre since around the time of Travis Scott or at least WLR v1

  • raps

    Nobody really considers Drake an R&B artist because he has a lot of songs singing/making R&B

    But its not so much about saying that they arent rappers just that most of their music isn’t rap. At times they can be rappers but all of that melodically driven post trap music should have been considered a whole new genre since around the time of Travis Scott or at least WLR v1

    Throughout Drake’s career, he’s probably had at most like 4-5 songs per solo album that were full fledged R&B songs

    All of those guys be rapping on the majority of their work, we can run through the tracklists right now

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    serenade

    i could easily see a scenario where we look at the deaths of XXXTENTACION, juice WRLD, and pop smoke collectively as the death of mainstream rap.

    even at the time they died i thought it was a massive blow to the future of the genre, but now i look it as downright fatal. there was really no one whatsoever lined up to take their place as the standard bearers of the next generation.

    to answer your question though...i guess just artists who are good at rapping but have some pop sensibilities? the bar is on the floor, honestly.

    Could write a thesis on this lowkey

  • Project

    Could write a thesis on this lowkey

    Yall love the word potential

  • Hov and The Boy beefing

  • Young niggas knowing how to rap

  • That nigga earl was like 18 spazzing in 2011

    That is virtually non existent today, Gen Z too cool to be talented, they’d rather LOOK talented 😉

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    Time

    Hip-hop is still the mainstream darling but once it implodes and there's only a handful of legacy acts still in the public's eye, the underground will flourish and take over the landscape

    Same thing happened with metal. There won't be any superstars anymore but there'll be a lot of good music once surface level hip-hop artists stop popping up to cash in

    Said it time and time again but when people started worrying about sales and metrics is when hip-hop lost the plot. People are more worried about what kind of rap they should do to appease the market instead of making music about what they want to make music about

  • A series of young artists rooted in traditional hip hop who incorporate modern approaches rather than being based in them.

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    couple weeks ago there was a thread on here where someone said it wasn't important to know the history of rap and tbf thats a perfect summary of the current wave

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    CGI Dog

    couple weeks ago there was a thread on here where someone said it wasn't important to know the history of rap and tbf thats a perfect summary of the current wave

    Its not necessarily that knowing rap history isnt important i was saying that the farther back u go it has diminishing returns while focusing on modern music provides more useful information on how to make contemporary music

    Its a conceptual framework

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    Zoid eve

    Its not necessarily that knowing rap history isnt important i was saying that the farther back u go it has diminishing returns while focusing on modern music provides more useful information on how to make contemporary music

    Its a conceptual framework

    always you at the scene of the crime smh

  • CGI Dog

    always you at the scene of the crime smh

  • Reading comprehension at an all time low

  • ASAKI

    Time

    Hip-hop is still the mainstream darling but once it implodes and there's only a handful of legacy acts still in the public's eye, the underground will flourish and take over the landscape

    Same thing happened with metal. There won't be any superstars anymore but there'll be a lot of good music once surface level hip-hop artists stop popping up to cash in

    Said it time and time again but when people started worrying about sales and metrics is when hip-hop lost the plot. People are more worried about what kind of rap they should do to appease the market instead of making music about what they want to make music about

    Kinda surreal how much of rap since whatever year you wanna pick solely exists because of your last paragraph and not a true desire for expression

  • i'm still excited

  • Macklemore needs to make a comeback

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    Jim Halpert

    Can’t happen with algorithmic niche streaming era

    sad but true

  • lonny860

    sad but true

    Big artists need to take all their music off streaming services.

  • maybe if melle mel dissed eminem

  • serenade

    i could easily see a scenario where we look at the deaths of XXXTENTACION, juice WRLD, and pop smoke collectively as the death of mainstream rap.

    even at the time they died i thought it was a massive blow to the future of the genre, but now i look it as downright fatal. there was really no one whatsoever lined up to take their place as the standard bearers of the next generation.

    to answer your question though...i guess just artists who are good at rapping but have some pop sensibilities? the bar is on the floor, honestly.

    and lil peep. they all died 21 max and would've been carrying rn. would be like 30 max

  • It’s just TikTok bs and streamer glazing in rap now