So if I wanna be a rapper in a communist society and at a point in my life want to host a concert tour the magnitude of the Yeezus Tour how might I go about that if my city desperately needs people to build basic infrastructure like roads and water piping?
they’d already have it in a communist society it’d be constructed regardless of entertainment things going on including your kanye west level tour
this went from some guy asking about how communism works to some dumbass posting about the PS5
Like how do you guys even fathom that under a communist society you’ll somehow have a faction of entertainers that aren’t considered elite and ultimately hated by the laborious working people thus recycling the hate we feel towards the upper class right now?
Is there even an author that has addressed any of the points people have been raising itt? Do any of you mind pointing to any modern day socialists that have tackled these modern day issues? You know socialists that understand they you can’t just tell people “well if I have to appeal to you with luxury goods for you to understand why we must radically change every system you know of in a world that YOU ALSO CO-EXIST IN then you have no business even being told about it”????? LMAO
You guys repeatedly saying “bro it will happen” is NOT an answer to me asking how it will happen
they’d already have it in a communist society it’d be constructed regardless of entertainment things going on including your kanye west level tour
HOW??????????
Either you or somebody else will produce what you want.
How? How do we produce it? Who directs this production? Who guides it? Who tells who what to do? Why would people even help me with this?
EDIT: sorry thought this was a response to my concert question
I do. I want to be a rapper. I want to have a concert tour the magnitude of the Yeezus Tour one day. If you do not care why do you even respond?
its an irrelevant thought experiment. once again, youre pretending like the existence of one thing means the non existence of another
is your little experiment going to deny infrastructure to others? if not, then whats the issue? the only issue is the one you have made up in your head.
Either you or somebody else will produce what you want.
So some random people who want it will put in 5 years of research and development, employ many thousands of people, produce, and then market a device just for the love of the art? Who is getting paid the money needed for this and why are they doing it? Who is fully funding it?
Just say this s*** won't work under communism, fam. It won't. It needs the free market.
We sit around in paper mache igloos waiting to be served our ration of gruel for the day
HOW??????????
it breaks my heart how dense you are, i’ve been trying refrain from personal attacks fam, i really have, and i apologize. but i just can’t connect the dots when you don’t have any dots
Like how do you guys even fathom that under a communist society you’ll somehow have a faction of entertainers that aren’t considered elite and ultimately hated by the laborious working people thus recycling the hate we feel towards the upper class right now?
Is there even an author that has addressed any of the points people have been raising itt? Do any of you mind pointing to any modern day socialists that have tackled these modern day issues? You know socialists that understand they you can’t just tell people “well if I have to appeal to you with luxury goods for you to understand why we must radically change every system you know of in a world that YOU ALSO CO-EXIST IN then you have no business even being told about it”????? LMAO
this s*** makes no sense. why tf are random working class people, who have their material needs met, just going to randomly be hating on entertainers just because those entertainers aren't "elite"
S***
No fun, no bad b****es, no video games, no sports, no money, Censorship
Sounds like hell
its an irrelevant thought experiment. once again, youre pretending like the existence of one thing means the non existence of another
is your little experiment going to deny infrastructure to others? if not, then whats the issue? the only issue is the one you have made up in your head.
Once again you can’t answer a simple question.
How do I put on a Yeezus/Pablo tour under capitalism you ask?
I gather enough capital either through personal savings of my own income or I receive outside investment either through a loan or a grant. With that capital I incentivize other humans to design the tour with me, and trade me their labor for the construction of the staging and sound design for money.
Now I ask you, how does it work under socialism? Not if the thought experiment is relevant or not.
If you don’t have an answer to the direct question I am asking then I am not interested in your opinions of the relevance of my thought experiment.
this s*** makes no sense. why tf are random working class people, who have their material needs met, just going to randomly be hating on entertainers just because those entertainers aren't "elite"
You can't be serious? You are arguing that people just all play to your game once they have their basic needs met. If we treat people with respect then everyone gets along. NO. Trust me. No. You can't even respect someone over a disagreement and you want everyone to get along. Have some introspection.
Yes, people hate people for no reason. Yes, people will hate entertainers for getting more than them. Even if more is just more attention or more women. People will hate.
I do. I want to be a rapper. I want to have a concert tour the magnitude of the Yeezus Tour one day. If you do not care why do you even respond?
S***
No fun, no bad b****es, no video games, no sports, no money, Censorship
Sounds like hell
I thought you were a leftist lmao
Once again you can’t answer a simple question.
How do I put on a Yeezus/Pablo tour under capitalism you ask?
I gather enough capital either through personal savings of my own income or I receive outside investment either through a loan or a grant. With that capital I incentivize other humans to design the tour with me, and trade me their labor for the construction of the staging and sound design for money.
Now I ask you, how does it work under socialism? Not if the thought experiment is relevant or not.
If you don’t have an answer to the direct question I am asking then I am not interested in your opinions of the relevance of my thought experiment.
I really wish you guys would get over this fetish about trying to figure out how the most specific things would work under communism
here, how about you have to appeal to the popular masses and if you can garner enough public support you can appeal to the ministry of art and they can then fund your project.