notesfromphilo

5y

appreciate you stopping by

bossyyyyy

5y

not fw OP’s izm not gon lie 2 u

notesfromphilo

5y

we are still eating THAT food

Smacked Voodoo

5y

Here's another thing for you to consider. The same kinda foods that you would consider soul food, you can find very similar counterparts in countries where slavery did not happen in. Damn near everywhere be eating pork, cow, etc. guts and intestines.

Keep that same energy for all these other countries and cultural backgrounds.

Just because a food or dish can be traced back to slavery doesn't change that at the end of the day...It is just food.

Smacked Voodoo

5y

It's like people who say they don't feel "comfortable" seeing black children tap dance because of old stereotypes and minstrel shows. The act of tap dancing isn't racist, and though it has been used against and to make fun of Black Americans, it is still only dancing. Which is nothing but a form of expression and art.

notesfromphilo

5y

fam

that has nothing to do with me

notesfromphilo

5y

i'm rolling with where you're going on this

but it's not the same because OUR soul food

DID come from some bullshit

and THAT is the point

Smacked Voodoo

5y

Your point is dumb.

Daveacee9

5y

No and we shouldn’t wtf

notesfromphilo

5y

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just seems like something we should move past as a people

for a number of reasons

what y'all think?

what is soul food?

"Historically a food that began during the tragic years of slavery in the South, when slaves would get cuts of meat and vegetables that were considered inedible by their white “masters,” the great migration following the Civil War introduced soul food to the entire country. But many former slaves remained in the South, and today, a food once considered rudimentary at its best is now found in almost every kind of place, from gas stations to diners and upper-crust eateries. Here are some favorites around the Volunteer State owned by African-Americans who put their heart and soul into every bite.."

highlighted comments:

"i strongly disagree with you. this argument feels very "new black" to me, not to slight you.
no black person is thinking about slavery and slaveowners when they cook yams and hamhocks. what is so bad about eating the same food my enslaved ancestors ate? why should this bother me? we aren't enslaved any more. white people are not forcing us to eat any of this food. we eat it because we like it and we are used to it. we make the conscious choice now as free black people to eat this traditional food. that is not bad.
who gives a f*** what a white person thinks? i don't operate with respectability politics." - @goddess

"I do see what you are saying. We are a new generation and far more of us have the chance to be in the middle and higher classes. Soul food might appear as more working class food to many and I think a lot of us are thinking about defining what being black, educated and middle/upper class looks like by distancing ourselves from certain things. How do we dress, what do we eat, how do we live, how do we decorate? Just so many questions and I think a lot of us are like you and we are trying to draw inspiration from our African roots and what the black diaspora is doing around the world.
I think experimenting is fun and by that I mean mostly switching up seasonings/oils, how things are being cooked/fried, what I eat with my food. But I'm also an immigrant and I live on the West coast so my point of view might be "too LA" from most. I get hit with a "you're not from here" a lot when I travel outside of SoCal." - @emu

"I can agree with that. But the cultural shift comes with the economic shift.
The generation is the ones that decide to mandate community gardens in places with less access to those "bougie" supermarkets that have healthy alternatives.
It comes with you instead of asking "we ever gon' stop eating soul food?" is asking "Will Whole Foods lower they f***ing price for their vegetables which would inevitably reign in more profit cause more people could come and shop there?"
If the supermarkets and corporations don't change, then our eating habits can't change. If neighborhoods that are food deserts don't start having markets built within it, then our eating habits can't change. Remember, we're talking about food. Something that no human can't live without it.
The reason you're being called "new black" and stuff is because there's a very victim blamey like tone in your question.
In this case, you can't have one without the other." - @insertcoolnamehere

Daveacee9

5y

No and we shouldn’t wtf

DrDreezy

5y

Soul food is good.

notesfromphilo

5y

the history doesn't bother you?

notesfromphilo

5y

why do you feel that way?

Daveacee9

5y

Because thats apart of our culture i don’t look at it as “slave” food i look at it as the best food i ever taste, seeing how our ancestors were able to create something that no one can top even to this day you find all walks of life enjoy soul food

notesfromphilo

5y

i feel you

but you don't think we can make other food taste good too?

Majin GoldenChild

5y

YOURE ON A ROLL TODAY

Orpheus

5y

OH yo this thread got me remembering things

soul food is evolving

there's this one spot in hyde park in chicago that is pretty much a high-end soulfood restaurant, it's kinda sick, it's called virtue