Kalmanta

6y

Honestly I‘m not sure where he goes next, Para has no cash, Universal has the thing with release windows, Disney doesn’t seem to give directors much control after some misfires in the past years.
Sony could be next for him, they seem to look for new partnerships after the Dicaprio and Tarantino deals, they offer the directors plenty of room and actually show support for the prestige releases with Oscar campaigns etc. But they also struggle with higher budgets, so it depends what kind of films he wants to release in the future.

rwina sawayama

6y

there are movies that couldve performed better commercially, but there is none that couldve 'saved' cinema. the only ones that could come close are the avengers movies (as much as some would hate to admit that)

its not that nolan 'killed' cinema, he failed to save it, but that was a task that was close to being impossible

so saying that WB is doing this just bc of tenet is just wrong, none of the movies in their line-up were movies that are like hyped, besides maybe wonder woman? but i didnt even hear anyone talk about that until it was close to release, the fact of the matter is that they dont really have any movie that would push tons of regular people to go to the cinema, just doesnt exist

Fulci Burnett

6y

sounds like you're making excuses for why Feige chooses to make the safest blandest films possible. You know there was a time where filmmakers could make huge blockbusters that appealed to audiences but weren't calculated by studio execs who barely knew anything about film.

Feige is everything wrong with mainstream cinema. MCU started industrial cinema wave - films that are made quick and easy with a million producer notes for their directors to follow to guarantee a crowd pleasing experience by braindead zombies who are easy manipulated. Rise of Skywalker was soulless nostalgia bait and it was heavily influenced by the MC which worked in Disney's favor because average movie goers loved it.

Say what you want about the DCU but the entire universe started with an auteur director's vision. It was compromised with BvS but even that movie feels like a frankenstein mix of Snyder's vision and Warner Bros desperate need for a superhero universe. It's not as one sided as a Marvel film.

The whole idea that a superhero has to be "fun" and appeal to man children is the reason why lames like Bill Maher think comic books are an abomination. Looking at the MCU nobody would even know that the comic books sometimes are violent and gritty. It's never restricted to a lighthearted tone and constant need for lame quip. God forbid a cape flick resembles the real world.

you sound like a person who likes to based their opinion around youtube critics. good day sir.

Fulci Burnett

6y

sounds like you're making excuses for why Feige chooses to make the safest blandest films possible. You know there was a time where filmmakers could make huge blockbusters that appealed to audiences but weren't calculated by studio execs who barely knew anything about film.

Feige is everything wrong with mainstream cinema. MCU started industrial cinema wave - films that are made quick and easy with a million producer notes for their directors to follow to guarantee a crowd pleasing experience by braindead zombies who are easy manipulated. Rise of Skywalker was soulless nostalgia bait and it was heavily influenced by the MC which worked in Disney's favor because average movie goers loved it.

Say what you want about the DCU but the entire universe started with an auteur director's vision. It was compromised with BvS but even that movie feels like a frankenstein mix of Snyder's vision and Warner Bros desperate need for a superhero universe. It's not as one sided as a Marvel film.

The whole idea that a superhero has to be "fun" and appeal to man children is the reason why lames like Bill Maher think comic books are an abomination. Looking at the MCU nobody would even know that the comic books sometimes are violent and gritty. It's never restricted to a lighthearted tone and constant need for lame quip. God forbid a cape flick resembles the real world.

you sound like a person who likes to based their opinion around youtube critics. good day sir.

Purified water

6y

I mean bro we just going to have to agreee to disagree because everything you’re saying is a personal opinion but you’re passing it off like it’s facts. You’re trying to hard to downplay movies of today as if every film pre-MCU is superior. IMO John Wick is better than Pirates, I respect that you disagree but it doesn’t make the narrative you selling factual. I definitely believe the star wars sequels are wayyyy better than the prequels, and majority of people would agree. But once again you’re overselling the prequels over the sequels as a selling point to this narrative that I find false. Bad films and good films exist in every era and thinking MCU is this terrible franchise that is killing away films is crazy to me. Like I mentioned F&F has always been bad IMO, so using them as an example makes no sense because they didn’t become bad because of the MCU, they were already bad prior, and has been milking they franchise before MCU was a thing.

It comes across as if you believe the MCU started the whole cinematic universe and milking the franchise. I’m not saying that’s what you actually think but it comes across that way when you use films like F&F as an example when they’ve been doing the whole universe s*** first.

Just because MCU became one of the most successful with this formula doesn’t mean people are copying them all of a sudden. This formula has existed for years and some have tried and failed, the MCU just managed to gather a lot of success from it.

And lastly IMO the MCU got better films than some of the throwbacks you’ve named and have taken risk.

EDIT:
Also just for fun sake, let’s say I agreed with you that the MCU franchise is a bunch of terrible films. Is that the franchises fault for lacking the ability to create something better....or the consumers fault for loving the films and giving them their money? The MCU can’t exist without the consumers literally paying for it to exist. So it kinda shows this “problem” you think exist isn’t so 1-sided. It actually goes three ways, on the studios, the theaters and the fans.

Rosebud

6y

None of what I said is an opinion. Telling you the Star Wars prequels are some of the most original, risk taking and ambitious experimental big budget filmmaking of all time is a fact and for you to discredit that is largely concerning considering it laid the ground work for how most Hollywood movies operate today. It’s a fact that the new Star Wars movies are s***ty nostalgia bait. From TFAs obvious episode 4 biting in structure and callbacks to Rogue One and TROS’s extremely bland use of older characters for cheap fan service, it’s pretty obvious there was absolutely nothing to be gained from any of those films beyond sitting down and being reminded that yes the old films are great.

Again, I’m not telling you the Pirates or Prequel movies are better because they’re better written or more enjoyable. I’m telling you they took real risks and told an original and contained story full of ideas that weren’t just fan service call backs or virtue signaling. That is something that is nowadays absent in Hollywood studio filmmaking. I’m sure the new Pirates movies theyre trying to green light will follow the MCU formula and sell all that bullshit so plebs can say they’re the best ones too.

Purified water

6y

Fam, those are opinions. I know not to take what you saying literal but you’re trying too hard to push your opinion onto others. I already said we respectfully disagree. I enjoy the Star Wars sequels and MCU

Fulci Burnett

6y

sounds like you're making excuses for why Feige chooses to make the safest blandest films possible. You know there was a time where filmmakers could make huge blockbusters that appealed to audiences but weren't calculated by studio execs who barely knew anything about film.

Feige is everything wrong with mainstream cinema. MCU started industrial cinema wave - films that are made quick and easy with a million producer notes for their directors to follow to guarantee a crowd pleasing experience by braindead zombies who are easy manipulated. Rise of Skywalker was soulless nostalgia bait and it was heavily influenced by the MC which worked in Disney's favor because average movie goers loved it.

Say what you want about the DCU but the entire universe started with an auteur director's vision. It was compromised with BvS but even that movie feels like a frankenstein mix of Snyder's vision and Warner Bros desperate need for a superhero universe. It's not as one sided as a Marvel film.

The whole idea that a superhero has to be "fun" and appeal to man children is the reason why lames like Bill Maher think comic books are an abomination. Looking at the MCU nobody would even know that the comic books sometimes are violent and gritty. It's never restricted to a lighthearted tone and constant need for lame quip. God forbid a cape flick resembles the real world.

you sound like a person who likes to based their opinion around youtube critics. good day sir.

DEL_DVYg

6y

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I’m speaking on my own behalf, though I stand in solidarity with the sixteen other filmmakers who now face the same fate. Please know I am with you and that together we are strong. The artists are the ones who create movies and series.

I strongly believe the future of cinema will be on the big screen, no matter what any Wall Street dilettante says. Since the dawn of time, humans have deeply needed communal storytelling experiences. Cinema on the big screen is more than a business, it is an art form that brings people together, celebrating humanity, enhancing our empathy for one another — it’s one of the very last artistic, in-person collective experiences we share as human beings.

Once the pandemic is over, theaters will be filled again with film lovers.

That is my strong belief. Not because the movie industry needs it, but because we humans need cinema, as a collective experience.

-Denis 'I have a Dream' Villeneuve

Misfit

6y

this is the I have a dream of film speeches

mjpplus

6y

This mother f***er is stupid

mjpplus

6y

This mother f***er is stupid