This. If shorty wants to keep it knowing the guys a deadbeat, WHEN SHE HAS THE F***ING OPTION FOR ABORTION, THIS THING WE FIGHT FOR WOMENS RIGHT TO DO, Why should the guy remain liable?
Really ain’t no reason in the world except for skewed perspective on equality. Equality is NOT achieved by counter oppression 😂😂
The baby does have a father though (biological, but still a father)
Semantics dawg you know exactly wht i mean
Yeah like birth control and condoms. Both sides can avoid this yet the blame is always on the man
Apparently you haven’t heard of this new state called Texas
Apparently you haven’t heard of this new state called Texas
We are obviously assuming that abortion is an option. It makes no sense to discuss this in a situation where parents can’t even choose.
If i had a baby that I didn’t want i’d still give that child the whole entire world.
I don’t really respect niggas that don’t, that’s your seed.
Generally, the man in a deadbeat situation is on some f*** s***, I’m ngl. Regardless, b****es need to stop thinking they can trap us into co-parenting or a relationship. And it takes two to tango should be applied to both.
Pregnancy is incredibly taxing, I’ve heard that as an argument itt…then why the f*** do you still choose to have a fatherless child?
Women keep children for the emotional maternal aspect sometimes even when it isn’t a good choice logically. Their biology is based around producing offspring so it’s probably a lot for a woman to rid herself of those maternal feelings once she’s a decent way into pregnancy. Hormones & all that s*** are powerful man.
Women are entitled to keeping the kid when they know dad won’t be around and isn’t s***, but you’re entitled to think that’s a stupid choice. You just don’t have any say because men can’t/shouldn’t control what women do with their bodies,
This. If shorty wants to keep it knowing the guys a deadbeat, WHEN SHE HAS THE F***ING OPTION FOR ABORTION, THIS THING WE FIGHT FOR WOMENS RIGHT TO DO, Why should the guy remain liable?
i’m a be real cause it’s not about equality it’s about fairness for the child. Via abortion the child doesn’t exist but a kid would still exist if the father just left, and the kid would feel the brunt of the negative consequences of growing up without one.
Really ain’t no reason in the world except for skewed perspective on equality. Equality is NOT achieved by counter oppression 😂😂
I just don’t understand picking and choosing when men/women should have equal choice in something.
If the woman chooses to keep a child knowing the dad isn’t s***, he should have an option to opt out.
Women keep children for the emotional maternal aspect sometimes even when it isn’t a good choice logically. Their biology is based around producing offspring so it’s probably a lot for a woman to rid herself of those maternal feelings once she’s a decent way into pregnancy. Hormones & all that s*** are powerful man.
Women are entitled to keeping the kid when they know dad won’t be around and isn’t s***, but you’re entitled to think that’s a stupid choice. You just don’t have any say because men can’t/shouldn’t control what women do with their bodies,
. People are gonna shame you for speaking on a biological reality
Semantics dawg you know exactly wht i mean
Yeah, but still. It comes down to the right one has to their own body
Women have the right to an abortion because they’re the person who has to have their entire body’s change for 9 months (and maybe even long after)
Women have the right to reject an abortion because the procedure involves their bodies as well
Men have the right to use protection, discuss the potential scenario beforehand with their partners, and if all else fails, stay out of the kid’s life and support financially
. People are gonna shame you for speaking on a biological reality
Frankly, i don’t care about their appeals to morality or popular sentiment. I’m talking about biological reality, the way human bodies are designed.
I’m perfectly fine with people shaming me because if they can’t approach my arguments without using shaming tactics or rationale then they’re f***in sheep anyways. F*** them and their opinions.
Idgaf about these strangers on a Kanye forum, unless we’re cool.
We are obviously assuming that abortion is an option. It makes no sense to discuss this in a situation where parents can’t even choose.
I mean it in the sense that people are more than happy to blame the woman for getting pregnant
I just don’t understand picking and choosing when men/women should have equal choice in something.
If the woman chooses to keep a child knowing the dad isn’t s***, he should have an option to opt out.
He does
Child support
Yeah, but still. It comes down to the right one has to their own body
Women have the right to an abortion because they’re the person who has to have their entire body’s change for 9 months (and maybe even long after)
Women have the right to reject an abortion because the procedure involves their bodies as well
Men have the right to use protection, discuss the potential scenario beforehand with their partners, and if all else fails, stay out of the kid’s life and support financially
How is this equal opportunity though? It’s been plenty scnearios where a child was born out of consensual unprotected sex, without the intention of making a child. you’re basically just telling niggas to watch their step and accept their fate while women get to do whatever 😂
He does
Child support
What if I don’t want my own god damn seed to become a whole entire child, is that not a valid argument?
How is this equal opportunity though? It’s been plenty scnearios where a child was born out of consensual unprotected sex, without the intention of making a child. you’re basically just telling niggas to watch their step and accept their fate while women get to do whatever 😂
1. It’s not equal. It’s fair
2. Both sides should watch their step. I’m sure if the mother didn’t plan the pregnancy, having a baby would be just as life changing for her
If you are willing to f*** a girl you better be ready to deal with a child. Simple as f***.
If you dont want no babies then dont f*** or get a vasectomy.
What if I don’t want my own god damn seed to become a whole entire child, is that not a valid argument?
And once again, condoms
There are risks to s***that (unfortunately not) everyone knows. If you 100% want no chance in having a child as a heterosexual man, abstinence is a healthy and respectable option
What’s wrong with s***ty morals? Who makes you the morality police?
We’re talking about equal opportunity to abort mission. If the woman has an out via abortion, why does the man have no out? The man just has to deal with whatever choice the woman makes.
If she wants an abortion, and you want her to keep it, you have no real say. If she wants to keep it, and you want her to get an abortion, you have no real say. You just have to be ready to pay up, even if you made it clear you didn’t want any part in raising it if she got pregnant and kept the baby.
Women can do what they want with their body but why should the man be liable regardless, if he expressed he’s not interested in raising a child very early on?
Not sure why you expect fairness?
Immature outlook on life.
You are not relieved of responsibility caused by your action because you don't want a child.
Having a child is always a possibility when having s***and if you don't understand that dont cry about the outcome.
Whether a woman chooses to terminate a pregnancy is ultimately not a mans decision (we don't bear the child and assume the risks and responsibility that pregnancy entails.) You had the choice to have s***hopefully understanding the possible outcome now as an adult you should be prepared to deal with any choice the woman makes.
You are just showing how simple minded you are not understanding the complexities that come with sex. Sound like a 3rd grader with the arguements you pose
Even if they are raped or underage?
Niggas demonize 16 year olds who are absentee fathers
Makes sense though most of yall were in the 3rd grade no more then a decade ago
Makes sense though most of yall were in the 3rd grade no more then a decade ago
Niggas demonize 16 year olds who are absentee fathers
Sooo…is that a yes? Keep in mind, girls as young as 9 can get pregnant
I disagree
The mother kinda loses the right to complain imo bc she knew that the man didn't want to raise the child
But you absolutely have a responsibility towards the child
At the end of the day you know what could happen if you nutted in her lol
I get what OP tryna say but no
1. Being a deadbeat is never the answer. If you don’t want to be in the kid’s life the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM should be supporting financially
2. The difference between the mom not wanting the kid and the dad not wanting the kid is that the mom has to carry the kid for 9 months
1. I mean that's kinda what OP is saying. Women have an option to deny motherhood if their life situation (financial situation included) isn't great, men don't and that's unfair in his eyes.
2. If the option of aborting was offered and she declined, then it means that she was willing to go through this and doesn't mind the physical toll, this becomes her choice.