If anything in the streaming era s*** is better than ever for smaller films

theguardian.com/film/2015/dec/17/quentin-tarantino-the-hateful-eight-disney-star-wars-cinema-booking

How do you figure that?

How not? You think anybody would go see the majority of the bullshit that gets popular on netflix in theaters? People just watch random s*** to have something to watch

Theaters are completely irrelevant as far as what smaller movies get traction lol. The theater industry is basically dead let it go

"Anything that gets popular on netflix"

AKA, less than 2% of Netflix's original film productions each year

Thats....the point?

What point? How does less people packing theaters to go see mindless franchise s*** which leads to less showings of literally anything else hurt indie films?

It's still way easier to get exposure for a show or movie with no name actors on a streaming service than it would ever be to get people to see it in theaters. How could you even argue this?

No, it's not. In 2019 Netflix released over 80 original films onto their service, sometimes multiple ones a week. 99% of them received virtually zero marketing, not even a spot on the platform's splash page or features in default categories that have prime real estate there.

Of the streaming platforms with market control, Netflix and Hulu (and to a lesser degree Amazon) have spent the past 3 years significantly boosting the amount of original productions — both shows and film — as an effort to inflate their media libraries to offset losses from that increasingly crowded market.

The idea that this environment is better — let alone "way easier to get exposure" — for smaller releases is entirely up to the platform's internal discretion, and they've consistently given ad campaigns to a tiny fraction of productions in general (smaller productions are frequently shuffled out with zero fanfare or manufactured hype).

The only things the current streaming environment is better for are established and nascent names in the film industry, along with rights to franchise spinoff properties (or knock off media produced to capitalize on various trends).

Yeah, it's easier for Netflix to give smaller productions exposure...if they want to, which they don't the vast majority of the time. Smaller movies themselves do not magically receive a golden ticket of publicity just because it's released by streaming platform.

This is has been an ongoing issue in the film industry since the mid 90s. The whole "hurting indie/mid-range films" topic isn't new or explicitly current. It's been a problem for nearly 30 years — the problem has only become increasingly harder to ignore over the past decade of studio behavior and the gaming of distribution models at the box office. And now its been roped in alongside everything else due to the center-stage issue of cornovirus' effects on industry.

I'm not texting you back paragraphs fam so you win but I still disagree

it was popular among the arthouse crowd ofc but i consider a star to be someone that my mom or dad would recognize, which is most likely gonna happen when they see those 2 movies

There's a difference between being a star and being a household name.

how do you define star then

Love Don't Cost A Thing>>>>>>Drumline

BvS top 3 superhero movies of all time

Probably not an unpopular opinion but; a majority of 00s teen movies aged like s***.

I can remember watching this n thinking shorty had some moves

Man wtf is this

so because it's the biggest thing it means it is inherently good? or are do you think the contrarianism is contrived?

It's definitely just contrarianism. They'll watch any other mindless franchise bullshit (some are dc warner bros stans) but have a problem when it's movies that are both critically praised and highly popular

Also what's the difference between marvel movies and the big mindless action movies of the 80's? (Indiana Jones, Jaws). They're written well from a character perspective but not complicated or challenging in any way

i see what you mean, that's a fair point. the hypocrisy regarding the treatment of blockbusters

Boi, don't throw Jaws in there as mindless action and compare it to Marvel.

Should've probably said a new hope instead but I'm basically just saying it's a good story but doesn't really have much deeper complexity to it. Which I'm completely fine with