33 years old is not an old head lol you niggas didn’t grow up wit actual Old heads I see. The two biggest rappers discussed this year are over 30 also. Hip hop Is maturing in real time which means there is a lane for rappers that aren’t under 25.

yeah they just hate tyler bro. it’s bizarre because the whole world moved on and now respects tyler but these mfs have a literal hateboner for dude

It's not even about being deep and introspective, to be a dope rapper, you need dope insight/culture. Give a unique perspective, when motherfuckers started sampling rap songs from the 2000s, s*** was done.

I think this is a reason why gatekeepers in the music industry of 12-25 years ago was actually a good thing. They made sure quality artists were pushed. Nowadays the labels are just picking whats already going viral and 9/10 thats the lowest common denominator s***. The wider audience doesn't know what's good and can be tricked by marketing a la Ice Spice.

Same reason why drill got popular for just being controversy bait 'omg he dissed a 13 year old that got shot?' , the music industry is overlapped with internet culture nowadays so the craft suffers as a result, it's no ones fault but the audience and change of consumption.

I like her face South n her ass Nort

Lock Thread and make it again tomorrow with this in the OP

You dont say?

twin where have u been ?

I feel you in that he can rap in the Juice Wrld post 2013 type way where there are some cool lines in the new style of flow but would he have been able to make it as a Philly rapper 2000-2006

They not lowering the rim and making the 3 pt line smaller in the NBA lol

ayo

Imagery and more recently the Internet is so strong in rap now that a lot of newer artists put emphasis on everything but bars.

ultimately I dont know but I think the point of a music forum is partially that we can make some guesses and talk about them. destroy is the one who said the "200 songs" thing

its not really about him as a person, I think people including myself are just disappointed with the state of rap/music in general

his point is correct how are y'all arguing this and missing what was said

I would say this is because most music is made on Fruity Loops/ Ableton nowadays and there are less instruments / expensive session players anymore. There is only so much variation you can do on a laptop .

You heard him saying Nort back in the day too and didn't exactly know what he was saying?

I would even say part of the reason Hip Hop had a decline compared to Pop, Country , etc. is the fact that a lot of rappers clearly had no care for the craft, yeah they might rap a couple nice verses but they using the same cookie cutter beats and same subject matter.

Feel like people that just make music for the money exist in those genres too. Especially when we see people that swap genres from rap to hopping into pop or country and being more successful.

Pop in itself probably has more people that don't really care given it's entire teams put together to make that music. Country is just probably less receptive to minorities probably I'd think lol.

"Hip-hop is cooked because rappers don't care about music and are only in it for the money" is crazy coming from a POP stan How many of the pop artists you spam here every day even write their own music? How many of them do vocal training? How many of them have even the slightest knowledge of other genres beyond what their label tells them to exploit and ruin? The only difference between them and a rapcaviar mid peddler like dababy is that he is honest

it’s ktt lol

Not being a writer doesn’t inherently mean you don’t care about the music though

Drake pushing 40 and these mfs wanna call Tyler an oldhead make it make sense

Btw pop music and the culture surrounding it are responsible for mainstream hip hop being s*** now, because when hip hop became the #1 genre it effectively became pop. Which means it got the poptimist treatment with thousands of thinkpieces and reviews telling us gunna's 5th album rapping about birkins and pateks over tay keith beats was secretly a profound look into the human condition

This and like who cares? Hes influenced no one , hes a cheap pharrell clone with barely any good music to his name and is close to being a pedo since he wrote igor about a teen. Hes a man baby and just a slightly more talented Yachty

never doubt the enduring spirit of ktt2 niggas still HATE tyler