anything that i find remotely challenging or difficult to understand is pretentious
oh brother y’all still do this in good year of our lord 2024
Yeezus isn't difficult to understand, the album is literally Ye sucking himself off, having a comedown and then sucking himself off again, to somewhat abrasive music mind you.
Tyler is an old head (33 years old) and old heads in every generation of rap has had the same opinion as tyler on new rappers and the state of rap music. KTT is old head status so I see why you and alot of others here agree strongly with his opinion.
The fact is rap has always been for the youth. It's not for people like Tyler and most people on this site anymore. The kids are gonna get inspired and identify with the rap that's coming out nowdays and the cycle will repeat once they get older. To deny there's any musicianship because it doesn't allign with your beliefs/views on the art form just shows you are dusty.
Weren’t artists like Drake, Kendrick, and asap championed by those that came before them when they were up and coming?
What’s some of his best written songs?
Most of the stuff on ganger
Once again I’m not saying he’s Wayne or some s***
but his bars are funny and witty and a little bit more to bite into than most Detroit artists
who are some artists who have so openly let the world know theyre only in this for money?
some names come to mind who havent said it explicitly, just curious of the type of rapper he was referencing
Mostly Detroit and post-WLR rappers
that “it’s not for you” s*** is equivalent to saying “well that’s just my opinion”
just a phrase people toss out to kill any discussion or avoid having to justify the s*** they’re saying
It’s just such a stupid argument because you can easily look at numbers and see what your saying doesn’t even make any sense
Weren’t artists like Drake, Kendrick, and asap championed by those that came before them when they were up and coming?
One issue here is that todays rappers are mostly only championing those who are signed to their labels
And they’re usually personal connections or just ass
Yeezus is cool, but in hindsight, it's kinda pretentious. It's the ultimate Kanye fan album tbh
I don’t think it’s pretentious
nigga 33 is not old
you niggas are sick with that ageism mess s*** is sad. tyler likes a lot of younger dudes anyway that’s not at all what he’s talking about. just keep it a buck and admit yall hate tyler atp
It's not ageism. Majority of rap listeners and rappers are young people. For a genre with a demographic like that, 33 is an old head. It's like in soccer where players who are in their 30s are considered old.
Tyler's opinion is an old head opinion that's been said in every generation of rap. If I played CMIYGL for some dude who thinks 90s rap is the truest form of rap they'd call it garbage and say tyler not a real artist/musician/rapper.
Just because this generations way of making rap doesn't allign with your belief/views on how people should approach the genre doesn't mean there's no real musicianship.
“It's not for people like Tyler”
So can you tell me why he and people older then him are the only ones still doing numbers?
Why can’t any of these kids hold onto a career for more then a couple years?
it’s even dumber when you realize that kids these days don’t even give a f*** about rap and are literally idolizing streamers
33 is an old head now
and it'll be niggas in their mid 20s saying this
and it'll be niggas in their mid 20s saying this
fr they’ll be killing themselves at 30 at this point talm bout “MY LIFE IS OVER BRO IM SO OLD”
31 pages of arguing over a dude who is 1000% correct
Mostly a Kanye and Travis thread tbh
Ok fair but we can still just albums relatively
Like chappell roans new album isnt going to impact like a pre streaming classic but theres clearly a difference between an album like that and albums that get carried by a single track i.e. vultures 1
That's true for sure
Tyler really went from idgaf skate boy hippie cringe lord to elitist rich boy, but honestly knowing the neighborhood where he’s from Im not surprised
i think he just goes whichever direction pharrell points to