Aug 13, 2024·1 reply
deleteduser579and even if Kanye was getting writing help to that extent i don’t even hold it against him like that because his production and ability to execute projects is unprecedented
writing help is negligible if you’re the dude that is instructing everyone what to do on your albums and curating an entire era and vision from the ground up, it’s the same with Beyonce to an extent imo (albeit she’s in pop and writing isn’t as cherished as it is in hip-hop but etc.)
Kanye hasn't evolved since MBDTF, he's been going off of rep/influence for a long while. His formula only works 100% when he's in vicinity of other great artist. His downfall is also an example of the decline in music itself, buy Ye never really transitioned his style. He's been trying to fit his square into these new motherfuckers circle for a while.
SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Aug 13, 2024
mr get doughHe isnt wrong
The rappers hes talking about literally tell u they dgaf about music
can tell like 80% of the replies before this post didn’t even read past thread title before responding
he literally said he’s talking about rappers who publicly say they don’t gaf about music
Aug 13, 2024·1 replygnarlynastyKanye hasn't evolved since MBDTF, he's been going off of rep/influence for a long while. His formula only works 100% when he's in vicinity of other great artist. His downfall is also an example of the decline in music itself, buy Ye never really transitioned his style. He's been trying to fit his square into these new motherfuckers circle for a while.
Yeezus
Aug 13, 2024·10 repliesvorioxyou’re delusional if you don’t see any truth in what he’s saying. as usual with tyler’s takes
Tyler is an old head (33 years old) and old heads in every generation of rap has had the same opinion as tyler on new rappers and the state of rap music. KTT is old head status so I see why you and alot of others here agree strongly with his opinion.
The fact is rap has always been for the youth. It's not for people like Tyler and most people on this site anymore. The kids are gonna get inspired and identify with the rap that's coming out nowdays and the cycle will repeat once they get older. To deny there's any musicianship because it doesn't allign with your beliefs/views on the art form just shows you are dusty.
- Aug 13, 2024·2 repliesMalcolm
Tyler is an old head (33 years old) and old heads in every generation of rap has had the same opinion as tyler on new rappers and the state of rap music. KTT is old head status so I see why you and alot of others here agree strongly with his opinion.
The fact is rap has always been for the youth. It's not for people like Tyler and most people on this site anymore. The kids are gonna get inspired and identify with the rap that's coming out nowdays and the cycle will repeat once they get older. To deny there's any musicianship because it doesn't allign with your beliefs/views on the art form just shows you are dusty.
33 is an old head now
Aug 13, 2024·1 replyeye contactVeeze has good bars on his production and is a little more boundary pushing than literally everyone else in his scene
My complaints with rap have more to do with inter-artist relationships, labels, and fanbases than what is actually being made in the moment tbh
Boundary pushing?
He makes punch-in raps over plugg-ish type beats
I mean like what you like but he’s not making anything new lol
- Aug 13, 2024Malcolm
Tyler is an old head (33 years old) and old heads in every generation of rap has had the same opinion as tyler on new rappers and the state of rap music. KTT is old head status so I see why you and alot of others here agree strongly with his opinion.
The fact is rap has always been for the youth. It's not for people like Tyler and most people on this site anymore. The kids are gonna get inspired and identify with the rap that's coming out nowdays and the cycle will repeat once they get older. To deny there's any musicianship because it doesn't allign with your beliefs/views on the art form just shows you are dusty.
Tyler has been like this since B****** / Goblin, he really hasn't changed
- Aug 13, 2024·1 replyyungking
Boundary pushing?
He makes punch-in raps over plugg-ish type beats
I mean like what you like but he’s not making anything new lol
I’m speaking relatively
And that’s because he has good writing
Aug 13, 2024
GangyHe’s not wrong. Rap is a cooked genre
- Aug 13, 2024voriox
you’re delusional if you don’t see any truth in what he’s saying. as usual with tyler’s takes
- Aug 13, 2024·1 replyeye contact
33 is an old head now
Rap's largest demographic are teens and young adults, with a majority of rappers being in that age range too. 33 is an old head.
Aug 13, 202430 pages three hours, tf lol
- Aug 13, 2024·2 replieseye contact
Yeezus
Yeezus is cool, but in hindsight, it's kinda pretentious. It's the ultimate Kanye fan album tbh
Aug 13, 2024·1 replyeye contactI’m speaking relatively
And that’s because he has good writing
What’s some of his best written songs?
- Aug 13, 2024Malcolm
Rap's largest demographic are teens and young adults, with a majority of rappers being in that age range too. 33 is an old head.
The old vs young split is what killed the genre
Kids always been a big factor but music was still universal. The albums that got kids hyped were also well respected by the old heads
- Aug 13, 2024
he makes a good point, hate it had to be a convo between him and mav carter though, I do not like Mav as an interviewer.
- Aug 13, 2024·1 reply
who are some artists who have so openly let the world know theyre only in this for money?
some names come to mind who havent said it explicitly, just curious of the type of rapper he was referencing
- Aug 13, 2024·5 repliesMalcolm
Tyler is an old head (33 years old) and old heads in every generation of rap has had the same opinion as tyler on new rappers and the state of rap music. KTT is old head status so I see why you and alot of others here agree strongly with his opinion.
The fact is rap has always been for the youth. It's not for people like Tyler and most people on this site anymore. The kids are gonna get inspired and identify with the rap that's coming out nowdays and the cycle will repeat once they get older. To deny there's any musicianship because it doesn't allign with your beliefs/views on the art form just shows you are dusty.
nigga 33 is not old
you niggas are sick with that ageism mess s*** is sad. tyler likes a lot of younger dudes anyway that’s not at all what he’s talking about. just keep it a buck and admit yall hate tyler atp 
Aug 13, 2024thinly veiled
Aug 13, 2024·1 reply
Worldpremiere_When they say they dont care
iirc cardi b was on wax sayin she dont care about musicSukihana too, literally got offended that she got called a musician.
And even tho i enjoy their music, id love to see 00piums opinion on music as an art form.
There should be no room for ppl like that anywhere near the top of any genre period.
while i generally get your point, i gotta disagree on that last statement…
discrediting someone who is (in some way) very talented and successful just because they might not share the same passion as you do is crazy. it doesn’t mean that they can’t make “good“ music or music a lot of people enjoy. you are clearly talking from an emotional standpoint here. motivation does not always equal outcome. meaning: someone who doesn’t give a f*** can still make a “better“ song than someone who does. that’s just how life works and i don’t think that should be what determines who gets to make music and who doesn’t. it should just determine whether you will support said artist or not. nothing more and nothing less.
- Aug 13, 2024william cubit
why would tyler of all people say this. acting like people didn't perceive odd future as "meme music".
if u make music ur a musician! if u make music that many other people like to listen to, u deserve some respect for it! does not matter if ur deathly serious or if ur joking around the whole time.
just another instance of tyler being pretentious and exposing his lack of appreciation for hip-hop
Tyler gives his flowers to hip hop as much as any artist what do you mean
- Aug 13, 2024·1 replygnarlynasty
Yeezus is cool, but in hindsight, it's kinda pretentious. It's the ultimate Kanye fan album tbh
anything that i find remotely challenging or difficult to understand is pretentious
oh brother y’all still do this in good year of our lord 2024
Aug 13, 2024vorioxnigga 33 is not old
you niggas are sick with that ageism mess s*** is sad. tyler likes a lot of younger dudes anyway that’s not at all what he’s talking about. just keep it a buck and admit yall hate tyler atpageism is a very big problem nowadays sadly
- Aug 13, 2024·4 repliesMalcolm
Tyler is an old head (33 years old) and old heads in every generation of rap has had the same opinion as tyler on new rappers and the state of rap music. KTT is old head status so I see why you and alot of others here agree strongly with his opinion.
The fact is rap has always been for the youth. It's not for people like Tyler and most people on this site anymore. The kids are gonna get inspired and identify with the rap that's coming out nowdays and the cycle will repeat once they get older. To deny there's any musicianship because it doesn't allign with your beliefs/views on the art form just shows you are dusty.
“It's not for people like Tyler”
So can you tell me why he and people older then him are the only ones still doing numbers?
Why can’t any of these kids hold onto a career for more then a couple years?
- Aug 13, 2024·1 replynotbrock
“It's not for people like Tyler”
So can you tell me why he and people older then him are the only ones still doing numbers?
Why can’t any of these kids hold onto a career for more then a couple years?
that “it’s not for you” s*** is equivalent to saying “well that’s just my opinion”
just a phrase people toss out to kill any discussion or avoid having to justify the s*** they’re saying