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  • Aug 13, 2024
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    eye contact

    Travis has some classic verses

    He might have a couple ngl

    Not on utopia though

  • Aug 13, 2024
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    Free YoungBoy

    Travis has done that too though. Sicko mode for example

    CyHi already said he doesn’t write for Travis, only re-records drafts that Travis has written and rapped over

  • Aug 13, 2024

    McCartney is an anomaly.. If you ran a simulation with the many thousands of people that were involved in the music industry during his come up one million times, someone would always end up as Paul McCartney: the Pop Superstar.

    he is not a real musician he cannot read music, nor does he know music theory.

  • Aug 13, 2024
    Malcolm

    niggas learn how to play a few chord progressions with borrowed chords and be throwing the word musician around

    Rather that than go through 30 beat beat packs from every producer out

  • Aug 13, 2024
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    Tkken

    He might have a couple ngl

    Not on utopia though

    On utopia I’ll give him hyaena verse 1, lost forever, and till further notice

  • Aug 13, 2024
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    eye contact

    CyHi already said he doesn’t write for Travis, only re-records drafts that Travis has written and rapped over

  • Aug 13, 2024
    eye contact

    On utopia I’ll give him hyaena verse 1, lost forever, and till further notice

    Ok yeah lost forever and my eyes pt 2 are pretty good

    I wish they kept WSG on the same beat though

  • Aug 13, 2024
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    eye contact

    Wait till u realize we want different things from different artists

    Then why y’all complain about the current state of rap?

    Veeze is exactly what y’all complain about but now it’s “We want different things from different artists”

  • Aug 13, 2024
    eye contact

    On utopia I’ll give him hyaena verse 1, lost forever, and till further notice

    And My Eyes

  • Aug 13, 2024
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    yungking

    I remember y’all started fake caring about substance when Utopia dropped and turned around and hyped s*** like Ganger

    Ganger had more personality and memorable bars while Utopia didn't (I like a bi girl on a bicycle?)

  • Aug 13, 2024
    Free YoungBoy
    !https://youtu.be/P9YklbrMZog?si=t5l3sgl9oORVnDkQ

    This was blatant im not defending this

  • Aug 13, 2024
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    and even if Kanye was getting writing help to that extent i don’t even hold it against him like that because his production and ability to execute projects is unprecedented

    writing help is negligible if you’re the dude that is instructing everyone what to do on your albums and curating an entire era and vision from the ground up, it’s the same with Beyonce to an extent imo (albeit she’s in pop and writing isn’t as cherished as it is in hip-hop but etc.)

  • Aug 13, 2024

    That’s more Travis stealing than using a sort of writing crutch tho

    Starrah wasnt doing anything special on it either

  • Aug 13, 2024
    fun guy

    Ganger had more personality and memorable bars while Utopia didn't (I like a bi girl on a bicycle?)

    I like a bi girl on a bicycle is hard as bricks

  • Aug 13, 2024
    yungking

    Then why y’all complain about the current state of rap?

    Veeze is exactly what y’all complain about but now it’s “We want different things from different artists”

    I don’t

    Can’t stand that dude and f*** him for saying radio freestyles are lame

  • Aug 13, 2024
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    yungking

    Then why y’all complain about the current state of rap?

    Veeze is exactly what y’all complain about but now it’s “We want different things from different artists”

    Veeze has good bars on his production and is a little more boundary pushing than literally everyone else in his scene

    My complaints with rap have more to do with inter-artist relationships, labels, and fanbases than what is actually being made in the moment tbh

  • Aug 13, 2024
    william cubit

    why would tyler of all people say this. acting like people didn't perceive odd future as "meme music".

    if u make music ur a musician! if u make music that many other people like to listen to, u deserve some respect for it! does not matter if ur deathly serious or if ur joking around the whole time.

    just another instance of tyler being pretentious and exposing his lack of appreciation for hip-hop

    Tyler turning into the thing he hated when coming up

  • Aug 13, 2024
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    eye contact

    Thank God is blatant but he made the second half

    Kaycyy was mad as f*** he didn’t get listed as a feat

  • Aug 13, 2024

    This became a Kanye Convo

    @op got a classic thread

  • Aug 13, 2024
    treeman

    Kaycyy was mad as f*** he didn’t get listed as a feat

    #thankgod

  • Aug 13, 2024
    Campari

    Tyler thinks because he knows what a chord progression is and tossed a group of violinists in a room he can start looking down on the genre that made him. He has a history of this weird elitist mentality - by far the most obnoxious musician.

    Looking down on the genre that made him

    He’s doing the opposite stop hating for a second and process what he’s saying

  • Aug 13, 2024
    Gangy

    He’s not wrong. Rap is a cooked genre

  • Aug 13, 2024

    Tyler is right and in a few months/weeks someone will make a thread echoing his sentiments and people will agree with them

  • Aug 13, 2024

    he’s not wrong it’s a lot of fast food music out rn

  • Aug 13, 2024

    I will say

    The post-WLR wave and the TikTok cult that formed around it actually devastated any sort of respect for other forms of rap and upcoming rappers

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