Aisosa

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Ignoring your absolutely idiotic opinion about hip-hop and the diaspora for a minute, where do you think I'm from?

Benny Boy

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The modern a***ogy for Mos Def's dual career is Donald Glover, unfortunately

2words

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LL Cool J was a household name in the 80s dumb ass

insertcoolnamehere

1d

Bro THERE IS NO COMPARISON

Donald Glover never was that socially conscious

insertcoolnamehere

1d

Please i dare someone to say This Is America lol

Aisosa

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Lool, he absolutely wasn't?

Unless you mean households who listened to hip-hop?

Benny Boy

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I would say the conscious element of hip-hop degraded so much that that is actually the 2010s equivalent lol

smackdab

2d

His peak popularity is being overinflated ITT. BOBS didn’t go platinum…

2words

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Nope. Every white person who watched MTV knew I Need Love and Mama Said Knock You Out. You’re just straight up wrong. He was a huge star.

I shouldn’t have to say this but Run DMC were also household names. You’re belittling hip hop as a niche thing, it wasn’t only hip hop fans that knew Run DMC and LL are you serious?

2words

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Armand hammer not a good comparison lol. I feel like that just further shows how far we’ve come from that time

It really wasn’t an anomaly back then. That was just what hip hop was. Artists with messages weren’t relegated to making obscure weirdo music

Benny Boy

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The modern a***ogy for Mos Def's dual career is Donald Glover, unfortunately

insertcoolnamehere

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feel like if you wasn't aware of Mos Def having his own freestyle fridays section on 106 and Park, or (for the umpteenth time) him being mainstream IN SPITE of the content he was putting out you don't have a say in this conversation lol.

what me and @2words are saying is that a rapper like Mos Def today doesn't even get past niche, let alone movie soundtrack placements

Like wtf is we talking bout here, yall bringing up these people without the context or relation to the times we was in. No these niggas was not Em or Pimp Juice or Hov but the rapper that made The Rape Over and not being immediately excommunicated from the radio is an accomplishment in itself.

Aisosa

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Hip Hop was absolutely a niche genre until the mid-90s when the East Coast/West Coast beef pushed rap songs from their own niche chart to the actual Hot 100.
I'm probably showing my age but popularity/being a household name was almost solely dependent on what the radio played and what the radio played in terms of hip-hop was mostly regional.

You had Yo!MTVRaps around the late 80s that made Aerosmith/RunDMCs Walk This Way popular, and you had Cool Jays 1992 (shirtless) performance of Knock You Out that made the song popular.

Didn't mean either of them were household names.

I don't know what you think MTV was but the best equivalent I can give is what streaming is like now.

It's like saying Amouranth is a household name, or DDG, or Duke Dennis or anybody not named Speed or Kai.

Broscodolo

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Think a lot of people are just missing the fact that this stuff came on everybody’s tv or radio at the same time. You couldn’t just not know about Mos Def lol

2words

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You’re talking out your ass. Walk This Way blew up on regular MTV, not Yo MTV raps. Pretty sure yo mtv raps didn’t exist until years after that song came out.

insertcoolnamehere

1d

you biting the bait

Aisosa

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Hip Hop was absolutely a niche genre until the mid-90s when the East Coast/West Coast beef pushed rap songs from their own niche chart to the actual Hot 100.
I'm probably showing my age but popularity/being a household name was almost solely dependent on what the radio played and what the radio played in terms of hip-hop was mostly regional.

You had Yo!MTVRaps around the late 80s that made Aerosmith/RunDMCs Walk This Way popular, and you had Cool Jays 1992 (shirtless) performance of Knock You Out that made the song popular.

Didn't mean either of them were household names.

I don't know what you think MTV was but the best equivalent I can give is what streaming is like now.

It's like saying Amouranth is a household name, or DDG, or Duke Dennis or anybody not named Speed or Kai.