Aisosa

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Hip Hop was absolutely a niche genre until the mid-90s when the East Coast/West Coast beef pushed rap songs from their own niche chart to the actual Hot 100.
I'm probably showing my age but popularity/being a household name was almost solely dependent on what the radio played and what the radio played in terms of hip-hop was mostly regional.

You had Yo!MTVRaps around the late 80s that made Aerosmith/RunDMCs Walk This Way popular, and you had Cool Jays 1992 (shirtless) performance of Knock You Out that made the song popular.

Didn't mean either of them were household names.

I don't know what you think MTV was but the best equivalent I can give is what streaming is like now.

It's like saying Amouranth is a household name, or DDG, or Duke Dennis or anybody not named Speed or Kai.

Broscodolo

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It’s not at all like streaming is now lol DDG doesn’t come on everybody’s TV nationwide at the same time lol

Aisosa

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MTV was a TV thing popular among a certain demographic, pretty much the way streaming is.

Aisosa

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MTV was a TV thing popular among a certain demographic, pretty much the way streaming is.

2words

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You’re talking out your ass. Walk This Way blew up on regular MTV, not Yo MTV raps. Pretty sure yo mtv raps didn’t exist until years after that song came out.

Aisosa

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Nitpick

2words

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Mama Said Knock You Out reached its peak on the hot 100 (not a niche chart) of 16 in April 1991, so no, a 1992 performance wasn’t what made it popular. It was a staple on MTV and a top 20 hit that everyone in America knew

Yo MTV raps came out in 87, Walk This Way came out in 86 and reached #4 on the hot 100. It was the fourth biggest song in the country. Everyone knew this, it was not a yo mtv raps thing, it was not a niche thing.

Aisosa

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Nitpick

2words

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Is it also a nitpick that the performance you claim made Mama Said Knock You Out popular happened a year after its chart peak? Plus that performance was on Showtime at the Apollo what are you even talking about

2words

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Is it also a nitpick that the performance you claim made Mama Said Knock You Out popular happened a year after its chart peak? Plus that performance was on Showtime at the Apollo what are you even talking about

Aisosa

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Lool, again nitpick.

My general ideas are right, I just mix up the specifics because, you know, it was almost 35 f***ing years ago

Aisosa

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That's why I keep saying youre nitpicking.

Did he have an MTV performce that coinciding with the song reaching its peak chart position?

Broscodolo

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You’re just totally wrong lol

Broscodolo

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Dog you put DDG Duke Dennis and Amorath or whatever the f*** ( nobody knows who tf that is) on the same level as Run Dmc and LL f***ing Cool Jay

Just take the L and move on

Aisosa

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Do you know what an a***ogy is?

Broscodolo

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Yes and yours is wrong af lol

Who tf is amorath

We’re talking about things you sat down and watched with your whole family and everybody knew who was who not mfs you sit and watch alone with headphones on 🤣

Broscodolo

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Yes and yours is wrong af lol

Who tf is amorath

We’re talking about things you sat down and watched with your whole family and everybody knew who was who not mfs you sit and watch alone with headphones on 🤣

Aisosa

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1. Hip-hop was a niche genre until the mid-90s when it started to have somgs regularly chart on the Billboard 100

2. We had popular rappers chart on the Hot 100 from the late 80s to the mid-90s but they weren't recurring fixtures until mid90s to 2000s

3. Having a song debut at (even) number 1 on the Hot 100 doesn't make you a household name, doing that consistently does. Is f***ing Roddy Rich a household name.

If you think any of the above is wrong, Google it or type it into your LLM.

Broscodolo

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I’m glad you said Roddy Rich because it only strengthens my point. Roddy Rich didn’t not pop up on the TV across the whole country at the same time so of course he’s not a household name lol

You didn’t have to have the number one song in the world back then