06:30 in SHE IS A SONY EMPLOYEE LMFAO

there are two moments in game where their relationship grows before the final chapter. the show already kinda went through one but did it different. the next is happening next episode i think. could hardly imagine game ellie making game joel laugh at puns before those two moments happened

i know he wanted to pawn her off to another person as well, but idr if he also wanted to pawn her off to bill

being a sony employee, one who has no attachement to the last of us at that, does not mean a thing to me here lmao. this is a classic example of appeal to false authority

I am not even saying laugh fully to that degree. Their connection has been partially established and as you said I think Episode 6 we will see it the most so far. I can't really compare it to the game in the sense that in a game you can randomly explore and wonder and she will constantly say things and they have more gameplay portions where they are facing enemies and bond than the show which I understand the change.

also we dont even know why ellie wants what she wants until a certain part in the game lol

you saying I am saying it willy nilly or "did you play the game lol " . I am showing other people have the opinion too. Not saying because she is a Sony Employee her opinion is better than yours. I am saying the opinion is out there its not some s*** pulled out of nowhere. Again if you are loving the connection or feel its depicted same as game and you are connecting with it why the f*** does my opinion matter to you. I am not even telling others to feel that way. I was discussing with one person and in spoiler tags about where I was at with it. If someone is loving every second of this and thinks 10/10 greatest show on television ever I am happy for them lol

@Synopsis like this is where this started. I am in no way hating throughout this entire discussion about this and have defended the show from people calling it mid or trash or saying wild s*** like Bella can't act

In the game I don’t think he pawns her off to bill or tries but he 100% is trying to pawn her off to Tommy

i didnt say you were hating lol i am saying their relationship is not supposed to be henry and sam or bill and frank. those people have spent years together. joel and ellie have spent months at best and one half of that relationship does not want to be in this situation

yeah thats what i thought

I brought that up for why the person said they felt they were being sidelined. ON WHY HE MAY FEEL THEY ARE SIDELINED. I DIDNT SAY THEY WERE SIDELINED

Tommy take this s***ty kid to the Fireflies for me so I can go back to my apartment and get drunk

Exact quote from game I think

lmfao one of the many reasons I dont understand the Joel worship. Goes from tommy take her to the ending real quick

That's actually one of my complaints about TV show Joel. He isn't as cold and distant towards Ellie. So when we do see them bond on the show, it's not like he made some huge character shift.

He is stoic . He is cold and distant in a way . I don't understand not thinking he is cold and distant in the show . We don't see him smile at all til like Episode 4

in the games he actually does start to grow fond of her and that becomes an internal conflict for him. we'll see how that plays out in the next episode because theyve set next eps events up waaaay differently than in the game.

Well that whole chapter is basically why. He goes from “you’re not my daughter you’re just cargo” to finally accepting their connection and taking her himself. Then the whole David s\*\*\*, then finally the Firefly massacre

I mean I am going to replay the game after but it feels like some of the bonding was the gameplay moments they cut. I could be wrong but something just feels missing connection wise. I know this is the you're not my daughter moment coming. I definitely think the Left Behind episode if it only covers Left Behind is really going to have to justify itself because time jumps affect momentum I think Last of Us 1

Show Joel is still badass but he’s way softer and emotional. With Tess, with Ellie, after the deaths of Sam and Henry. In the game it feels like he’s trying to reject feeling anything for most of the first half.

yeah my replay will make it more clear. Between them something feels different but its been a while so who knows . Just when I saw others who have beaten the game recently who felt the same way I was like "so its not just me" but who knows

That’s definitely part of it. There’s a lot of banter between them while traveling around that we never get to see in the show and that’s a big loss.

That is all I am saying. I mean it is to be expected with game to tv show. People don't like "filler" when I think filler can lead to getting to know characters more and they spend time with each other. Knowing exactly where to go in a game versus getting lost and seeing their dialogue, failing, all of those things. I am glad it is working for others I have made that clear and I have called it good time after time

in game joels biggest internal conflict is he does feel like a father figure to ellie, but does not want to.

joel is never actually a heartless b****** to her after like, the initial day they meet lol its weird people misinterpret it as that.