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  • May 16, 2021
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    00000 inimicu

    f*** joe

    Profit-sharing is a commission. If the profits are the same every month u can consider it a salary since the source is stable. The reality is none of these guys are cooperate and using words interchangeably when they mean different things.

  • May 16, 2021
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    Bandito

    I listened to all pods around this topic. I'm not saying Joe may not be pulling shady s***. I broke down all their claims which are over money. Both sides are contradicting themselves. But with emotion, anger and lies that's to be expected. As for being employees and having a hierarchy above Paris is standard. Rory and mal were basically managers, then parks as the engineer then all the other guys below.

    Having a hierarchy is common. I'm a director at my company but I wouldn't say I own the business as it's a global company with a CEO and founders. I can also be fired at any time.

    ok if you're coming at this from a corpo objective financio standpoint who is a new listener, then i appreciate that
    joe is wrong tho

  • May 16, 2021

    Lost case itt

  • May 16, 2021
    Bandito

    Profit-sharing is a commission. If the profits are the same every month u can consider it a salary since the source is stable. The reality is none of these guys are cooperate and using words interchangeably when they mean different things.

    yea but even joe is the worst offender of that because he is the most pretentious, trying to be this mogul
    im telln u

  • CKL TML 🌺
    May 16, 2021

    Shut up bandito

  • May 16, 2021
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    Bandito

    I listened to all pods around this topic. I'm not saying Joe may not be pulling shady s***. I broke down all their claims which are over money. Both sides are contradicting themselves. But with emotion, anger and lies that's to be expected. As for being employees and having a hierarchy above Paris is standard. Rory and mal were basically managers, then parks as the engineer then all the other guys below.

    Having a hierarchy is common. I'm a director at my company but I wouldn't say I own the business as it's a global company with a CEO and founders. I can also be fired at any time.

    This guy mentions himself in every post

  • May 16, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    you don't have to

    but that's not the issue anyways

    they would have been cool with whatever joe's arrangement was

    they just wanted to know where it was coming from

    I agree. In the interest of friendship and team morale, he should have shared the information. But his logic is he doesn't have to and they are ungrateful if it is true that he paying them using his own money to keep them earning.

    My point is it not as crazy as it sounds it seems unless laws are being breached. Everyone involved is a s*** communicating without proper experience and contradicting themselves. Joe actions and delivery is whack as f*** but I see and do understand his logic as the sole owner of the company.

  • May 16, 2021
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    tbh, bandito is iust a neutral party since he lacks context. rhats the type of 3rd party jpb shud have hired. instead, joe try to sick his jerry keller who casually will say "joe, you are the most gracious, most generous business partner i've ever worked with.". Joe would rather have ian manage rory and mal to shut them up
    lol f*** ian
    f*** joe
    f*** parks

  • May 16, 2021
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    If I’m Rory I’m not tryna hear that weak ass apology about how u said I’m a worthless s*** and u aint want me to be there when ya son was born. That’s how U felt and u let it be known.

  • May 16, 2021

    f*** joe
    f*** ian
    f*** parks

  • lets say the pod continued to go and grow as normal

    are we supposed to believe that joe would have started paying them what their contract said they were owed based on profits?

    if he wasn't upholding the contract when it was actually favorable for him to do so

    why would he then uphold the contract when he is required to pay them what they are actually worth (whenever that number grows beyond whatever he was paying them before he fired them)

  • May 16, 2021
    00000 inimicu

    ok if you're coming at this from a corpo objective financio standpoint who is a new listener, then i appreciate that
    joe is wrong tho

    Yeah, he's a d*** head. All parties are to blame. Friendship clouded everyone's judgment. Before revenue, you should always iron out the financials.

    I have a side business with two friends and we split everything evenly. It's has kept things simple. Because if the revenue is a lot one will become disgruntled seeing lots revenue come in with a smaller take. Two of us work harder than one guy which is annoying as f*** but our terms were agreed upon before revenue. We will probably buy him out at some point.

  • May 16, 2021
    YoungNastyShawty

    If I’m Rory I’m not tryna hear that weak ass apology about how u said I’m a worthless s*** and u aint want me to be there when ya son was born. That’s how U felt and u let it be known.

    Facts. If I was him it's f*** Joe for life. He's an op.

  • May 16, 2021
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    00000 inimicu

    tbh, bandito is iust a neutral party since he lacks context. rhats the type of 3rd party jpb shud have hired. instead, joe try to sick his jerry keller who casually will say "joe, you are the most gracious, most generous business partner i've ever worked with.". Joe would rather have ian manage rory and mal to shut them up
    lol f*** ian
    f*** joe
    f*** parks

    Exactly. That's why founders often hire CEO to run the day today. Just because u founded something doesn't mean you can run the company. Joe at the end of the day is the talent and the reason people tune in. It's hard to do both effectively without experience.

  • May 16, 2021
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    why is he like this

  • May 16, 2021
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    Slingshot
    https://twitter.com/mal___/status/1393953190194864128

    why is he like this

    Thats abandonment issues for sure

  • May 16, 2021
    vagabond

    Thats abandonment issues for sure

    tbh tho

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    Manz

    This guy mentions himself in every post

    That makes people relate more. By painting a picture and giving real world examples. If I solely use the guys words peoples judgements are clouDed based on fandom.

  • May 16, 2021
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    Bandito

    Exactly. That's why founders often hire CEO to run the day today. Just because u founded something doesn't mean you can run the company. Joe at the end of the day is the talent and the reason people tune in. It's hard to do both effectively without experience.

    how has nobody communicated this to joe

  • May 16, 2021
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    Slingshot
    https://twitter.com/mal___/status/1393953190194864128

    why is he like this

    yall literally been on here complaining about mal not talking/being on his phone the whole time

  • May 16, 2021
    Bandito

    Yes, both parties said they've seen the numbers. But roryvand mal don't believe the numbers based on an alleged error. Joe doesn't not have to prove his revenue from other sources tho which is where their pay is coming from according to Joe

    Let's say you and I work together on a pod. And I'm paying you a commision based on earnings but the deals dry up so I use my supplementary income from my side gigs to keep paying you. If you ask to see those books I don't have to show you because that income is not pod related. I'm simply paying from my money.

    its not about not believing the numbers, unless you think rory is lying, he said specifically the accounting firm agreed there was an error. after that, no more numbers were shared