Like this is the “intellectual” y’all look up to?

please forgive me for my tone bc i fw yall and don’t want to come across as angry at anybody other than displeased with Cockshott

It’s so f***ing out of touch

once again i wish i could’ve communicated this in a better tone but it’s so ridiculous i don’t feel like it

Literally who is this

The PCF is one of the greatest miscarriages the western left managed to s*** out

Paul Cockshott a couple folk in here fw bro and I was about to see what was up with his work but I was hearing he did this recently and its just like
Come on man wtf

There's multiple videos.

It just felt like s*** to say it ITT cause I know a few ppl got good things out of his work but I can't rationalize some bs like this

How u gonna be an anti-intersectional communist that doesn't understand this group is a part of the working class and not just some cosmetic attachment to whatever one thinks a "real" identity is.

and I haven't gone thru all the content he's put out recently but if its pretty much on that level of that video I posted... I don't even know what to f***ing tell u lol.

It just screams out-of-touch.

Not to mention this hurts the prospect of a larger mass movement that's inclusive and accommodating to people of different backgrounds instead of just people who read a f*** ton of theory and thats it

(edited that part cause it doesn't reflect what I was actually trying to communicate)

Also happy 900 pages of socialism.

Don’t know anything about him outside of ordering this books cuz im not on social media

But I mean frankly i think dismissing the entirety of an old guys political-economic thought because he has some backward views on social stuff is silly

900

That's why it felt bad to have to say this s*** because I'm sure he got some useful work somewhere.

And that's not what I was trying to come across as doing.

But it clearly upsets me and it makes him look stupid. Hurts his credibility

Like doesn't make me want to read his s*** at all. Hopefully someone can get thru to him or some s***.

But this is just actually logically stupid. Like not only bigoted as if LGBTQ people don't exist, but a legitimate display of stupidity.

To be honest yall, I could keep ranting on being annoyed with this, if you want 2 continue discussing itt but i don't know if its going to be constructive

I am not saying he doesn't have useful work elsewhere.

If I came across like that, my bad, that's not what I was going for.

If Castro can come around so can Cockshott

I just think its a huge misstep. And it struck a nerve with me. (obviously lmao)

that's all.

Wasn't trying to assess the entirety of his work just on this recent s***

But it is troubling for his credibility moving forward imo and it needs to be addressed

Some people got more patience than me though.

Honest question

You’re concerned that the movement is overly dominated by a bunch of theory drunk nerds. Do you engage in engage in political practice and organizing to try and usurp these mythical theory nerds who somehow don’t do anything but read yet also somehow control the whole movement?

I read a lot of theory and I can safely say I’m more politically active in terms of real praxis than most people who get on this “anti theory” anti intellectual tip

I just find a lot of it to be projecting honestly

You’re concerned that the movement is overly dominated by a bunch of theory drunk nerds.

I'll keep it real that sentence in my post was kinda ass cause I was grasping at straws for what I was trying to communicate

The best way I can explain what I was going for is that we can't afford to... count out large groups of society off rip, i.e. rural blue collar people even if they've got some BS views that go against their best interest (potentially being reactionary against socialism which would help the resources they need access to for survival, which is also prominent in Dems in the city too not just rural or repub obv),

or LGBTQ community, just because capitalism is trying to coopt allyship in their messaging.

That was more of what I was going for

I think it's a horrible approach to lead with alienation. I get attacking the ruling class and bourgeoisie ideas, and even going at individuals who do perpetrate this s***, but im talking more about the fact that, queer folk are overwhelmingly working class if im not mistaken so it's f***ing stupid what bro is doing rn.

I could continue if u want me to elaborate more, but I do get why u take issue with that part because it was a super reach on my part i had nothing to put there lol

And let me know if u think my post is making any concessions to the bourgeoisie because my wording might not have been the best

Because best case scenario? People can take the good from Cockshott, be able to reference that, and then also say where he made any missteps, and lets keep it pushing, without the f***ing stupidity he's been dropping lately.

I am lowkey surprised something irritated me this much

its just Cockshott has interesting views on economic planning and his social views pure ass

Goon had me thinking Cockshott is one of them ones cause I f*** wit him (goon)

1000 pages soon

900

Historically communism was about the working class it wasn’t pushing liberal “woke” ideology. If you want to say that the idea of what constitutes a communist has changed in current times, than why do people who claim to be communist don’t condemn Stalin. Stalin is on the first page making a heart symbol, even though he criminalized homosexuality

Stalin’s lack of socially progressive attitudes are regularly criticized, but it in no way is worthy of the overall condemnation him or of the immense progress he brought to the socialist movement. It’s especially worth noting that concepts of homosexuality were still widely stigmatized in 20th Century.

As a Marxist it is important to understand that the condemnation of people’s entire contribution to the world on the basis of aspects of their character is inhibitor to progress and reason. The celebration of these people is something entirely different. Whether or not one may wish to celebrate Stalin is contentious but that’s a whole other topic

Carl Schmitt, for example, was a member of the Nazi party, and his writings on political power are foundational to understanding much of the mechanics behind modern politics. His work is important but it is not something that makes him worthy of respect or venerationn

Hey emu

I’ve said before i wish it was lenin instead of stalin

but i feel like it’s also there to trigger people who don’t know s*** about communism which is kinda funny i guess

… i guess

well said