In general, it's all forms of Caucasian European thought is what I don't care about. For example, people know I'm into the scriptures and engaging in conversations with brothas n sistas I hear the typical white mans book, etc. but the same people will turn around and hand me a book on Karl Marx and other forms of Marxist to Socialist beliefs... all written by white people. I have nothing against these political structures except democracy. Democracy has been their most effective force at disassembling surrounding african & arab cultures. After the death of Alexander a key reason of how the Greeks took over the Mediterranean was for other countries loving Greek culture amongst Democracy. Rome used the same template attached with wars and the USA has done no different. Even though the USA is branded as a republic, they go to foreign countries iso establishing democracy

1492-2021, Dum Diversas, Religion, Capitalism, Marxism, etc. businesses, politics they've all shown to be rotten at its core. They all stem from the same kin.

Until we have our own forms of structures, culture etc. and stop using other nations pinnacle as our gold standard, then we can break free of our own issues.

Is socialism or capitalism the way? Possibly, but not how it's currently presented. No reason to follow that template.

As Stokely Carmichael said: Gravity exists regardless of whether a white man discovered it. The criticisms of capitalism are true regardless of a white man saying it. Early communism has existed in Africa millennia before Marx existed. Him discovering the laws and motions of capitalism doesn't make "Marxism" a white ideology just as much as Newton describing gravity makes gravity a white concept.

I never have any clue wtf people are talking about when they say "as its currently presented" or "we need something different than socialism or capitalism"

They drank the kool aid about red scare stuff but understand that capitalism isnt cutting it. Many such cases!

That's what I'm saying. Follow the ancient path, not what's recently discovered.

If communism and Marxism existed in Africa, study those cultures not another form of white supremacy.
People say Jesus was a socialist. There's a difference between an American Socialist and a Hebraic Socialist. The culture and overall viewpoint on life of the Hebrews is different then even their Roman neighbors. Jesus was against the Roman Democracy, their way of life and anyone that was living that bs. He was well aware of his own and was establishing the proper government and worship structures for His kingdom.

The same goes for any black dominant or white dominant society.

You're apart of the problem. That's why. Not man enough to even directly respond so you'll resort to passive aggression.

Those cultures were studied my man, communism is modelled after it. Communism in its endstage would resemble the original communism of ancient times. There were pre-class societies, and communism will be a post-class society. It will be like a full circle.

Communism isn't white supremacy. Most communists on earth are asian, african and latin american. The most rabidly anti-communist countries are white.

Sure

what even is going on

@Bestowed i’ll keep it real, whatever you been saying ITT isn’t translating. or it’s not even backed up by anything substantial, it feels like you’re just connecting irrelevant thoughts together that don’t even form an actual perspective, just stating your confusion and thereby confusing anyone trying to untangle your words

so i guess what i take from it is so many of the dominant political ideas seem to be overwhelmingly white or something

it seems like you’re missing something

Thanks for adding the last two sentences. I was initially going to ask, is the main problem the people running politics from capitalism, communism to socialism or is it the model itself?

if you’re dispelling leftist thought on basis of the race of it’s writers i don’t think you’re getting very much here

i have no clue what they’re going for lol

are you able to rephrase that question? i’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking

are you asking whether the problem is the leaderships execution of either a capitalist based system, or a socialist one,

or rather the ideas themselves before they’re even acted on

because i mean capitalism inasmuch as you extract the most labor out of someone at the lowest wage, meaning more profits for you, is technically correct. as a math equation or something

but as far as ethics/human rights it’s pretty f***ed up in general, paired with the fact that basic food water shelter education is not guaranteed, especially amidst such profits that come from someone’s labor

Capitalism is a set of ideas that immediately lends itself toward greed and exploitation, from the outset. So it can be seen as problematic before it’s even executed

Now i will say there is some sort of discrepancy like let’s say you have some business but you’re the sole employee, you’re not exploiting someone else’s labor (i.e. u pay someone bullshit for hours of their work)

whats this dude going on about

Right now the biggest problem is that the rich countries actively oppose socialism to be built and promote capitalist collaborators in the country they wanna rule

That being said: Every country is rich. It's just the people who are poor.

And no country is underdeveloped, they are merely overexploited:

For sure, is capitalism the problem are the people who are governing capitalism (laws, lobbying etc.) the problem?

Is socialism the solution or are the people who administer socialism as important if not more than the platform?

this I agree with.

Capitalism is the problem, not the people administering it. There are laws inherent to capitalism thar have existed for 200 years and won't ever change. Marx talks about this indepth. We call them the inherent contradictions. If you want I can expand on that.

Socialism is one solution. Nobody claims it would be paradise. The people administering it can be a problem. The late Soviet Union collpased partly because the well-educated part of the country wantes to try capitalism and got greedy.

That being said, it is possible to design a system where you can keep these people in check. Humans have lived without classes in our ancient state and I believe we can return to it too in the future. But obviously it is no easy feat.

It took capitalism a couple hundred years to replace feudalism. Socialism was first tried about one hundred years ago. Let's see if it can replace capitalism.

yo dis goes hard with the music

Are there any writers or minds that are disconnected from Caucasian train of thought, that can speak on socialism and ideals you're referencing?