Capitalism would indeed cease to exist if we took climate change seriously lmao.

Cuba was homophonic/transphobic for 60 years, man.

Now they have the most progressive laws for the lgbtq people in the world. Castro apologized for being so wrong. The youth does not have this conservative view of sexuality that their elders have.

Its such a simple contradiction a third grader could understand it

Planet = finite resources, ecosystem stability

Capitalism = endless growth, in pursuit of profit, depletes resources and destabilizes ecosystems

You cannot reconcile this contradiction with half baked reforms or by going green lmao

My bad, I thought I quoted dude in my reply

I mean that in decades of socialist rule, countries like Laos, Vietnam, North Korea, societal attitudes are still homophobic even though theoretically, the natural positions of socialism are supposed to get rid of systemic biases. So what makes you think that left to their own devices, they would just stop being homophobic

They don’t have the most progressive laws, that would be Sweden or Canada or something.

In Cuba, gay couples still can’t even adopt. They’ve come a long way, sure, but what does that have to do with their application of socialism as opposed to changing global perceptions of the topic

This is a simple explanation even a first grader could understand =

No fossil fuel use allowed, so energy generated through wind/solar and hydro instead.

The plan isn’t to keep producing energy for the end of time, it’s to produce enough energy to sustain a population

No they aren’t inherently more tolerable. I just debunked how LGBT (especially Trans) people are treated in Cuba in relation to most capitalist countries where your insurance doesnt even cover your transition.

There isn’t many socialist countries to choose from and of course some will be socially behind since they are often blocked off and ostracized from the rest of the world.

ALSO Vietnam (a socialist country) is pretty progressive of LGBT stuff and have a lot of popular LGBTQ celebrities intrepidtravel.com/us/vietnam/is-vietnam-lgbtqia-friendly

Because people learn and change overtime.

Reread the post i specifically said capitalist countries AREN’T inherently more tolerable.

Neither system “inherently” favors or opposes discrimination like that

Yes, like in any type of economic system. It’s not inherent to any one

Abolishment of slavery wasn't done out of morals it was done because there was a widening divide btwn northern industrialists and southern slave owners. A battle of two economic systems.

One aspect was the Black population was growing immensely -- obviously because you can run a field with 10 slaves to 1 slave owner. This means there are less settlers, and there were large concerns for revolution.

Some other things too. Division of labor and the such. Slavery into wage slavery. (The exploitation doesn't just cease to exist) Settlers by Sakai goes well into this.

Slavery was only abolished in some northern states because Northern factory workers would be unable to compete with free labor.

The borders states that were part of the union actually got to keep their slaves even after the Emancipation Proclamation which only applied to states they left the union

institutionally is a word yes

you're in the clear

going greenwashed*

Right, but if they are subject to the whims of the working class, they're just a figurehead and not an actual leader with agency to make decisions. If you want a dictatorship of the working class, you'll need the working class to agree on things and I don't think that's likely (aside from workplace reforms and unions, stuff that directly affects them).

well that's why solidarity and class consciousness is a necessary precursor to socialist revolution

I agree, just don't think it's achievable while also taking the precautions to avoid bureaucracy and bad actors taking control

bureaucracy is inevitable

bad actors can easily be forced out by a base of solidarity since the state relies on complacency of the normal people to be able to exist

It doesn't though, the state relies on people not disassembling it. This can be achieved by appeasing normal people but also by nefarious methods like in the Soviet Union which weaponized fear and intelligence or sheer force like Lukashenko does right now

These r valid critiques. Keep in mind all states use forms of authority to coerce populations.

Also Keep in mind socialism has only been enacted a couple handful of times and only 2 times on a very large scale. Capitalism took hundreds and hundreds of years to develop but socialism as theory is just over 100 years old but each revolution marxists learn. That's why ppl don't call themselves the marxists they call themselves Marxist-Leninist-Maoists because it is an ever changing ideology

For example maoists saw the ever increasing bereaucracy in the ussr and modifies the ideology to include the people more through mass line and self critique. (Cudderwalks gave a good post on this a few pages back)

Also keep in mind there are still socialist states which have been going strong for a while and have not become liberalized (e.g CUBA). It's not like socialism creates some inherent power vacuum that always reverts back to capitalism, that doesn't make sense. It's just INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE being opportunist and wanting to line their own pockets. Communists will learn from the most successful countries and implement their methods to make sure opportunists don't institute capitalist reforms

Lol my phone didn't recognize it

Nah, capitalists are already marketing themselves as the answer to the problem they created. Just keep investing in innovation! They ran out the clock on preventing it, now they're conveniently the last hope!