lonny860

18h

If you read the initial message, I said that it's pretty hard to get there when Rap Media/The Industry/The Internet are in shambles. It takes longer now..and some of the people that were getting really close died in towards the end of the last decade..that was a BIG setback. Pop Smoke, X, Juice Wrld, Lil Peep. They wouldve been critical pieces in how rap wouldve have matured in alternative spaces.

Kanye Drake Jay etc..all were able to benefit from those things (media, radio, tv exsposure, authority at the record labels) with a way more concentrated market.

We are in different times. It takes longer. It takes built in communities that are mature and understand and champion rap.

So when people s*** on the underground rappers it makes no sense. They are the ones that will be on those stages and have the best chances of being huge. (Ken Carson, Nine Vicious, Destroy Lonely, Che, etc)

People just want them to be/look like traditional rap artists. That is dead.

and then it's like..Lil Baby, Playboi Carti, NBA YoungBoy, and Lil Uzi exist...do these artists just mean nothing? are these not huge names produced in the last decade?

Do we seriously think there wont be more stars in rap? lol

Experiment626

10h

I blame streaming era tbh

Everything went downhill once that got established

americana

11h

S*** might not be rap but it’s absolutely hiphop

insertcoolnamehere

5h

brining up "Ken Carson, Nine Vicious, Destroy Lonely, Che, etc" after raps asked you who will be the next Ye Drake Jay Wayne or Kendrick is exactly why rap will most definitely continue to decline lmfao.

I don't even want tradition rap artists, I want artists that know how to say more than 3 syllable words lol

fun guy

11h

Chappell Roan - Macklemore

I knew opening thread would be a mistake but I still opened it

SABMAN TURNT

5h

hit songs about being gay

outspoken about left-leaning politics to the point the industry stopped pushing them

threetwentysix

5h

good thread to bring up one of my favorite ktt posts btw

insertcoolnamehere

5h

This wasn't why the industry stopped pushing Macklemore Sab please stop lying lmaoooo

Jim Halpert

5h

Everyone is illiterate man

insertcoolnamehere

5h

bro it's constant reports talking bout Gen Z the first generation with lower IQ than previous generation but niggas wanna be on here talkin bout "oh man rap is alive"

Like it aint certain posters in this thread that only post new artists that all they can talk about is motherfucking guns. My nigga, don't even be having any variety in the subject matter like dawg s*** is unimaginative, derivative, and most of all B O R I N G

young niggas like redveil are at least t r y i n g.

LaSean

2d

Yall let all these mediocre niggas with mediocre music into the game that tell you out of their own mouth that they don't care about rap and this s*** is just a bag to them and then wonder why the s*** sucks now.

These niggas can't rap, nor are they song writers, they just care about fashion and auta farming.

Bring back gatekeeping.

Also the pace of releasing music is hurting the genre too cause s*** isn't allowed to sit in the oven and cook properly cause niggas gotta compete with the algorithm to stay relevant so niggas keep releasing half baked projects.

I think the death of mixtapes has killed the genre too and Im talking bout real mixtapes when rappers rapped over other rappers beats

eversince

10h

Also are mentors even a thing anymore? Why do it feel like ppl were taken under peoples wings before

Kanye had No ID
Drake had Wayne

Do stuff like that still happen?

If anyone can name more relationships like that then lmk

Jim Halpert

5h

Everyone is illiterate man

JaeRell

4h

The effects of this have penetrated every facet of society.

insertcoolnamehere

5h

-started listening to hip hop in 2012

insertcoolnamehere

5h

brining up "Ken Carson, Nine Vicious, Destroy Lonely, Che, etc" after raps asked you who will be the next Ye Drake Jay Wayne or Kendrick is exactly why rap will most definitely continue to decline lmfao.

I don't even want tradition rap artists, I want artists that know how to say more than 3 syllable words lol

Sir Real

4h

His broader point is correct even tho the examples are bad imo

lonny860

18h

If you read the initial message, I said that it's pretty hard to get there when Rap Media/The Industry/The Internet are in shambles. It takes longer now..and some of the people that were getting really close died in towards the end of the last decade..that was a BIG setback. Pop Smoke, X, Juice Wrld, Lil Peep. They wouldve been critical pieces in how rap wouldve have matured in alternative spaces.

Kanye Drake Jay etc..all were able to benefit from those things (media, radio, tv exsposure, authority at the record labels) with a way more concentrated market.

We are in different times. It takes longer. It takes built in communities that are mature and understand and champion rap.

So when people s*** on the underground rappers it makes no sense. They are the ones that will be on those stages and have the best chances of being huge. (Ken Carson, Nine Vicious, Destroy Lonely, Che, etc)

People just want them to be/look like traditional rap artists. That is dead.

and then it's like..Lil Baby, Playboi Carti, NBA YoungBoy, and Lil Uzi exist...do these artists just mean nothing? are these not huge names produced in the last decade?

Do we seriously think there wont be more stars in rap? lol

raps

16h

Facts

Its like its mutually exclusive to them that melody means they have to also impulsively come up with random lyrics they dont think much about after getting super high and its like bro thats been tired as s*** for at least like 8 years. Using the cop out of “rap aint the same no more” to justify lower effort

Phil Collins or John Lennon had thought provoking lyrics at times and was melodic lol. Niggas scared to take a stance or have an opinion on anything in their songwriting they just want to be characters and preserve their brand