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  • Sep 16, 2024
    OHMNI

    “ last longer “

    Look up how long ps2 era was and diversity of games with backwards compatibility and free online then ps3 again

    Look it up you got google

    It seems like we agree here then? The same thing is happening now with the ps4 and I’m saying it’s a good thing. That’s my whole point.

    The guy I replied to was complaining about ps5 not having games, but that’s just because ps4 is lasting a long time and the consoles are compatible. So it’s a good thing.

  • Sep 16, 2024
    maxxing

    We’re not even talking about the same thing it seems lol

    We were talking about how there were “no games this gen” according to the guy I replied to

    Shoehorning a bunch of points about the pro console is super irrelevant

    The pro console is a tangent to the generation, there will never be any ps5 pro exclusive games, it’s just a product for a niche market of people who prefer 60fps basically

    There are very few games made with the ps5 in mind from the bottom up . Squeezing the power out of the ps5 which in my opinion often requires a new engine . You notice how games running on new engines already look and feel more next gen then games that don’t ?

    Everyone knows ratchet and clank , returnal, spider man 2, Astro and more it’s not about no games

    It’s partly about third party and indie used to just all have more variety because game life cycles used to be shorter , there wasn’t a crazy amount of layoffs and there were more game companies

    This stupid s*** not going to truly help developers or consumer . Many of the games they showed ps5 pro upgrades for had layoffs within the past year . Wfh ending and I openly told your dumbass they are begging devs to have pro upgrades ready for launch so they have a lot more to show to justify that price

    So far they have 50 games on that list . Still haven’t shown journalist pssr and I doubt that they do all that Tokyo game show with 10 days til preorders . What is consumer friendly about selling a 700$ console and not giving a hands on of the central feature before going on sale ?

  • Sep 16, 2024
    Shin Chan

    Honestly, we’re just in a weird era for video games where the media has gotten too big and there’s a war between the graphics race and just plain fun gameplay.

    There’s a certain point where games won’t look any better. Let’s focus on them running at high frame rates and truly fun gameplay

    There’s a reason Astrobot is a “Nintendo Mario game” with a modest budget and is the most celebrated game of 2024. Astrobot is focusing on gameplay and FUN. No movie cutscenes or micro transactions or always online, just single player FUN

    We gotta go back to that old school way of thinking with video games

    Developers outside of movie game people hate these graphics w****s

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    Shin Chan

    There’s a certain point where the console is too weak and we need to move on to new consoles

    We didn’t stay on the PS2 and GameCube and Xbox forever right?

    There’s a certain point where consoles get stronger and we should move on

    My issue is that Sony and Microsoft tried to move on too soon

    And Sony is doing it with the PS5 Pro. Devs can’t even master the PS5

    Name a single dev that truly made a game on ps5 where you boot it up and say “ wow this is well optimized and not 200 gigabytes “

  • Sep 16, 2024
    maxxing

    Gameplay over everything

    Huge AC nerd

    Some creed lovers like the consistency is it the greatest game of all time no by any means but all of yall that hype a spider man 1 or 2 can’t really speak because traversal is what takes that game from being to

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    Sony really trying to paint this as an enthusiast console while removing the disc drive that comes standard with the base model ps5

  • Sep 16, 2024

    For this piece of s*** to be consumer friendly you would drop it in spring and give developers time where more games supported it including games from previous PlayStations

    You would be fully backwards compatible. It would come with an edge controller .

  • Sep 16, 2024

    Rushing something to market for Christmas season isn’t consumer friendly

  • Sep 16, 2024
    ragedsycokiller

    Sony really trying to paint this as an enthusiast console while removing the disc drive that comes standard with the base model ps5

    And stupid niggas like maxxing are arguing for it

  • Kr0niic ☘️
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    Sep 16, 2024
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    ragedsycokiller

    Sony really trying to paint this as an enthusiast console while removing the disc drive that comes standard with the base model ps5

    I’m an enthusiast and havnt bought a physical game since gta v for the 360

  • Sep 16, 2024
    Kr0niic

    I’m an enthusiast and havnt bought a physical game since gta v for the 360

    Digital games should cost 10$ less man they have no excuse for their digital prices being so trash besides sales

    Then GameStop damn near out of business

    Yall not seeing it

  • Sep 16, 2024
    ragedsycokiller

    Sony really trying to paint this as an enthusiast console while removing the disc drive that comes standard with the base model ps5

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Name a single dev that truly made a game on ps5 where you boot it up and say “ wow this is well optimized and not 200 gigabytes “

    depends what you classify as good optimization

  • Sep 16, 2024

    Think of ps2 generation of devs were asked to make a ps2 pro version because you didn’t like when you were driving in San Andreas that there was pop in

    You think devs love now having

    S, x , ps5 , ps5 pro ai to test for because you are insecure and can’t wait 4 to max 5 more years for ps6 ?

    When no matter what the game has to run well enough for the least common denominator

    Gameplay is made around the least common denominator

    We have to pass certification with the least common denominator and honestly anaconda ( Xbox series x ) often has less issues than the ps5 on resolution and frame rate

    Series s obviously issues but we find a way mainly out of memory crashes .

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    Kr0niic

    I’m an enthusiast and havnt bought a physical game since gta v for the 360

    All my friends still buy game discs for their consoles. So why f*** them over?

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    MiniVan

    depends what you classify as good optimization

    These games aren’t optimized lol Sony sets like an upper threshold of how big a game can be with pro upgrades games will be even bigger

  • Kr0niic ☘️
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    Sep 16, 2024
    ragedsycokiller

    All my friends still buy game discs for their consoles. So why f*** them over?

    Sony needs that 30% cut from digital

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    OHMNI

    These games aren’t optimized lol Sony sets like an upper threshold of how big a game can be with pro upgrades games will be even bigger

    i was asking you what do you consider good optimization so i can try name a game lmao

  • Sep 16, 2024
    MiniVan

    i was asking you what do you consider good optimization so i can try name a game lmao

    Zelda

    Battlebit

    lol good use of storage and using an art style for best results is what I count

    Example mortal Kombat the reason it’s so large is primarily long cut scenes ie MOVIE GAMESS

    Where the ceo doesn’t care that it takes up a lot of space on your hard drives because less games on the console means less competition for daily logins in a live service world

  • Sep 16, 2024
    ragedsycokiller

    All my friends still buy game discs for their consoles. So why f*** them over?

    It’s consumer and environmental friendly said maxxing no game boxes because that is the greatest thing plaguing the environment right now not batteries or constantly making new consoles or bombs its game boxes

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Name a single dev that truly made a game on ps5 where you boot it up and say “ wow this is well optimized and not 200 gigabytes “

    Insomniac
    Team Asobi
    Santa Monica
    Guerilla Games

    If we counting remakes, remasters, directors cuts, etc:
    Naughty Dog
    Sucker Punch
    Bluepoint

  • Melz ⚜️
    Sep 16, 2024
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    KING SPAWN

    lowering the resolution internally just to use machine learning to then upscale the output

    is literally doing more work to create a worse output than NATIVE would be

    it's called NATIVE for a reason, u can't get "better" looking visuals than ones that aren't lowered or downgraded lmao that's basic logic

    Oof

  • Sep 16, 2024

    This was consumer friendly

  • Kr0niic ☘️
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    Sep 16, 2024
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    Melz

    Oof

    Dude said with his gut a completely false statement