yeah and what we are trying to tell u itt is that Russia admitted to doing it as well in Donbass meanwhile you are talking here about "the people voted!"

Did they admit to deporting them in 2014 when the referendum took place or just now?

It's a serious crime either way but it's relevant to what the discussion was

common sense should tell people that foriegn state backed warlords running riot isnt the healthiest environment for a legitimate referendum

Yeah DPR & LNR = warlords

Azov and Ukrainian state banning half their opposition parties = bastion of liberal democracy and political freedom

Yes, this is why I cannot vibe with Zelenskyy

yeah they dont have rule of law, there were warlords like givi and motorola running amock. theres video evidence of this s***. warlords were constantly getting whacked and replaced and fighting among each other. the place is militarised to f*** and infrastructure is lacking. it started because armed groups with russian support bailed on the ukrainian military and seized swathes of the east. common knowledge. that's not a democratic state

and banning parties supportive of russia in a war is different to doing it in peace time. in world war 2 (yes i know im bringing up world war 2, it is relevant), britain proscribed the british union of fascists.

he had most the country vote for him in fair elections and now has the confidence of over 80% of ukrainians

Not all of those parties supported russia, several of them supported a neutral Ukraine

ukrainians been hitting russian infrastructure within russia

thegrayzone.com/2022/04/17/traitor-zelensky-assassination-kidnapping-arrest-political-opposition

saw medvedchuk's rightfully arrested face and stopped reading

Ur mentally challenged if you think the USA somehow automated away all its industry rather than offshoreing it (not to mention the mere act of mining for minerals in Africa and elsewhere)

we don't know, it could have been done on the low and could not but the same pro-Russian guy was in charge that is today

still there are no grounds for an invasion and to take it over forcibly by Russia

it is being done now tho

if Ukraine was desperate they would cave in to Russia's imperialism

also we know very little about these negotiations, the reports are conflicting, one say Russia isn't willing to negotiate anything the other side says that about Ukraine

Wild how desire for a river border has survived from antiquity. This not good though

max blumenthal is on record as meeting russian officials for reasons outside of journalism

youre hitting pro ukraine media with pro russian media

medvedchuk is a legitimate traitor who was under house arrest, took his russian daddies invasion as a chance to escape and got apprehended

I guess we now know why Russia didn't respect the made up humanitarian corridors fully, it's because they deported them on their own way

we don't know, it could have been done on the low and could not but the same pro-Russian guy was in charge that is today

So you're just gonna make these assertions based on nothing and argue on those premises?

I agree that we don't know much about the negotiations internally, but we do know Zelensky said he won't allow any territorial changes.

Out

it's not based on nothing when they are doing it right now tho

and Donbass is territory of Ukraine, so they have every right to not want to give it up

I read that grayzone article

-claims azov attacked medvedchuk despite zero proof it was azov

-simplifies decision to arrest him

I needed to buy toilet paper

azov keeps teleporting

He literally said SBU arrested Medvedchuk, not Azov

It's insane how disingenuous you are

One Ukrainian lawmaker accused azov of doing it

Azov deny it

The grayzone state that it was azov for sure

Seems legit