Russo-Ukrainian War

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  • Apr 25, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    He literally said SBU arrested Medvedchuk, not Azov

    It's insane how disingenuous you are

    The article states that azov attacked his house, I'm not talking about the arrest

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    KEV

    it's not based on nothing when they are doing it right now tho

    and Donbass is territory of Ukraine, so they have every right to not want to give it up

    It is based on nothing, just because they're doing it now doesn't mean they were doing it before

    Ukraine can take whatever stance they want to and you can support them too, just be honest about defending territorial integrity over self-determination

  • KEV 🧊
    Apr 25, 2022

    those referendums were never approved by the ruling government so they have no legal grounds

    these are self proclaimed unconstitutional referendums

    that's not how countries work, if it worked like that Russia would have many separatist countries in their own territory as well but they don't recognize them do they

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    The article states that azov attacked his house, I'm not talking about the arrest

    Well I would click on the link with the evidence but the EU censored whoever the link lead to

  • Scratchin Mamba

    Well I would click on the link with the evidence but the EU censored whoever the link lead to

    Guess brexit helps sometimes

  • KEV 🧊
    Apr 25, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    It is based on nothing, just because they're doing it now doesn't mean they were doing it before

    Ukraine can take whatever stance they want to and you can support them too, just be honest about defending territorial integrity over self-determination

    if it was done with the permission of the elected government and done in a legitimate way I would have no problem with it but it isn't , that's the whole point

    Russia just looks hypocritical and if Ukraine doesn't want to give it up it has rationale not to

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    KEV

    if it was done with the permission of the elected government and done in a legitimate way I would have no problem with it but it isn't , that's the whole point

    Russia just looks hypocritical and if Ukraine doesn't want to give it up it has rationale not to

    So in order for them to have their own government.. they should have their own government first?? How does that make sense lol

  • KEV 🧊
    Apr 25, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    So in order for them to have their own government.. they should have their own government first?? How does that make sense lol

    no I mean the Ukrainian government has to approve the referendum

    otherwise any minority and little part of a country that lives on a territory could vote on their own country but it doesn't work like that does it

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    KEV

    no I mean the Ukrainian government has to approve the referendum

    otherwise any minority and little part of a country that lives on a territory could vote on their own country but it doesn't work like that does it

    2.5 million people voting in favor isn’t exactly insignificant lol

  • Apr 25, 2022

    Also nevermind the pro Ukrainians boycotting

  • KEV 🧊
    Apr 25, 2022
    MyBallsAndMyWord

    2.5 million people voting in favor isn’t exactly insignificant lol

    it's not and I'm sure in reality a lot of people are for it but it wasn't done legally and the legitimacy is very questionable

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbas_status_referendums

  • KEV 🧊
    Apr 25, 2022

    we ain't gonna s*** on the concept of sovereignty because of Donbass otherwise everyone would run free and there would be many cases like this all over the world

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    KEV

    no I mean the Ukrainian government has to approve the referendum

    otherwise any minority and little part of a country that lives on a territory could vote on their own country but it doesn't work like that does it

    Kosovo out now, literally any unauthorized secession by central govt ever out now

    It's a legitimate argument i'll give you that, but it's still selectively applied by many on the Pro-Ukraine side, as it always is in geopoliTRICKS

    Like i said before itt:

    Territorial integrity for the vros, minority self-determination for ur foes, the Gaddafi doctrine

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Kosovo out now, literally any unauthorized secession by central govt ever out now

    It's a legitimate argument i'll give you that, but it's still selectively applied by many on the Pro-Ukraine side, as it always is in geopoliTRICKS

    Like i said before itt:

    Territorial integrity for the vros, minority self-determination for ur foes, the Gaddafi doctrine

    These people are pro Hong Kong btw

  • Apr 25, 2022
    americana

    These people are pro Hong Kong btw

    Oh of course

    But the difference here is obvious come on, China bad did u forget?

  • Apr 25, 2022
    Yuzzy

    Cope!

    No need to

  • KEV 🧊
    Apr 25, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Kosovo out now, literally any unauthorized secession by central govt ever out now

    It's a legitimate argument i'll give you that, but it's still selectively applied by many on the Pro-Ukraine side, as it always is in geopoliTRICKS

    Like i said before itt:

    Territorial integrity for the vros, minority self-determination for ur foes, the Gaddafi doctrine

    Yeah Kosovo as well but we both know the circumstances of that situation were different

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    KEV

    Yeah Kosovo as well but we both know the circumstances of that situation were different

    Kosovo isn't the only example that was acknowledged (and supported) by the same ppl taking the opposite stance now

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    americana

    Debtbook diplomacy talking points have already been debunked by even pro western media try another talking point bro. The point is that the policy is mutually beneficial and actually productive since it builds the power of third world countries instead of keeping them subjugated like how the US does. Cry about it

    got links to the debunking im interested in reading em

  • KEV 🧊
    Apr 25, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Kosovo isn't the only example that was acknowledged (and supported) by the same ppl taking the opposite stance now

    Could be, that's on them

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    got links to the debunking im interested in reading em

    Here's one by the westoid atlantic

    theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/china-debt-trap-diplomacy/617953

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Here's one by the westoid atlantic

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/china-debt-trap-diplomacy/617953/

    why does china have the best visual propaganda man

  • Apr 25, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    why does china have the best visual propaganda man

    That’s the primary one from a western publication

  • Apr 25, 2022
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    still yet to see why russia should be able to keep mariupol and all other territory seized during the invasion, rather than that which ukraien had already lost control of