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  • Feb 23
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    Getting a sense with the delays Drakes decided to fully lock in

    There was deffo an OG iceman from 2024-2025

    The icemen streams deffo were intended to coincide with the drop but after the reception to Ep3 he’s realised he has to be levels above his 2018-2026 output

  • Feb 23
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    Htownwolf

    Kendrick and travis have both done bundles

    Travis has, Kendrick has not (the ones for Morale did not count for the first week sales because they did not ship first week)

    And there’s been times Travis has not used bundles that Drake stans have said he did (4X4 going #1)

  • Blue Man

    With or without bundles Drake outsells every rapper so this conversation is useless

    In theory, but not necessarily

  • YA ICEMAN ACE

    I have never once seen that happen when talking about just straight CD sales lmfao that's just a lie. We're always talking about box sets / bundles / merch tie-ins. I also think having 8 different variations of physicals to incentivize multiple purchases is sleazy

    @Htownwolf just said Kendrick has used bundles before, that is blatantly untrue

  • ICEMAN40 🧤
    Feb 23
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    shaleirose

    Travis has, Kendrick has not (the ones for Morale did not count for the first week sales because they did not ship first week)

    And there’s been times Travis has not used bundles that Drake stans have said he did (4X4 going #1)

    Didn’t DAMN have bundles?

  • Feb 23
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    ICEMAN40

    Didn’t DAMN have bundles?

    Nope:

    billboard.com/pro/kendrick-lamar-damn-no-1-album-billboard-200

  • Feb 23
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    ICEMAN40

    Didn’t DAMN have bundles?

    it did. and he never specified "bundles that count for first week". and everyone clowned travis for fake boosting 4x4 to #1. that alt account is just lying hoping no one checks him

  • Feb 23
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    Blue Man

    whats your criteria for not counting these

    one is a concept album, and fatd felt rushed, he was on tour, felt like it was to meet contractual obligations.

  • Feb 23
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    Blue Man

    it did. and he never specified "bundles that count for first week". and everyone clowned travis for fake boosting 4x4 to #1. that alt account is just lying hoping no one checks him

    No it did not

    billboard.com/pro/kendrick-lamar-damn-no-1-album-billboard-200

    And how did Travis fake boost 4X4? Literally all that was on sale for that single that would’ve counted towards its numbers was a CD

  • Never thought I’d see the day, mfs defending bundlers. The bundle bandits. Bunjovis

  • Feb 23
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    coldfire

    one is a concept album, and fatd felt rushed, he was on tour, felt like it was to meet contractual obligations.

    hnvm is a great album and fatd scary hours is really good. you can't just arbitrarily pick and choose which drake albums count lol. with that logic kendrick hasn't made a real album since damn

  • Blue Man

    hnvm is a great album and fatd scary hours is really good. you can't just arbitrarily pick and choose which drake albums count lol. with that logic kendrick hasn't made a real album since damn

    Well technically I can do whatever I want, but

  • Feb 23
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    shaleirose

    No it did not

    https://www.billboard.com/pro/kendrick-lamar-damn-no-1-album-billboard-200/

    And how did Travis fake boost 4X4? Literally all that was on sale for that single that would’ve counted towards its numbers was a CD

    Keep lying alt

    "In addition, on April 18, Lamar surprise-released four digital editions of the album only available through his official website. The sets were available until April 20 and offered a digital download of DAMN., along with either an autographed vinyl LP or CD version of the set."

  • Feb 23
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    Blue Man

    Keep lying alt

    "In addition, on April 18, Lamar surprise-released four digital editions of the album only available through his official website. The sets were available until April 20 and offered a digital download of DAMN., along with either an autographed vinyl LP or CD version of the set."

    https://twitter.com/TopDawgEnt/status/854750635543089152

    Yeah they were autographed physical copies of the album, that’s not merch bundles

  • shaleirose

    To be fair, Drake stans regularly use the term “bundles” to discredit other artist’s numbers when they’re talking about physicals. They’ve done it to both Kendrick and Travis

    We have circled back to my original point of Drake stans incorrectly using “bundles” when they are referring to “physicals”

  • Feb 23
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    shaleirose

    Yeah they were autographed physical copies of the album, that’s not merch bundles

    first it was bundles that count for first week, now its specifically merch bundles. any other goal posts you wanna move?

  • Feb 23
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    Blue Man

    first it was bundles that count for first week, now its specifically merch bundles. any other goal posts you wanna move?

    The term “bundles” in this context refers to pieces of merch that are sold with a copy of an album to count as an album sale.

    For the third time: Drake stans are still incorrectly using “bundles” when they are talking about “physicals”

  • ICEMAN40 🧤
    Feb 23
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    shaleirose

    Nope:

    https://www.billboard.com/pro/kendrick-lamar-damn-no-1-album-billboard-200/

    Oh I saw a revolt article that said they used tshirts to bundle with physical sales or something. Idk how all of this works anyways lol. Just curious

  • Feb 23
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    ICEMAN40

    Oh I saw a revolt article that said they used tshirts to bundle with physical sales or something. Idk how all of this works anyways lol. Just curious

    Can you link it?

  • Feb 23
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    shaleirose

    The term “bundles” in this context refers to pieces of merch that are sold with a copy of an album to count as an album sale.

    For the third time: Drake stans are still incorrectly using “bundles” when they are talking about “physicals”

    also kendrick literally posted a link of the bundles with merch. a single google search shows multiple evidence of tde promoting bundles for damn and you chose to blatanly lie
    facebook.com/kendricklamar/posts/damn-limited-edition-autographed-bundles-available-now/10155291133133092

  • Blue Man

    also kendrick literally posted a link of the bundles with merch. a single google search shows multiple evidence of tde promoting bundles for damn and you chose to blatanly lie
    https://www.facebook.com/kendricklamar/posts/damn-limited-edition-autographed-bundles-available-now/10155291133133092/

    Billboard made no note of them so it’s possible they didn’t count towards the sales

  • ICEMAN40

    Oh I saw a revolt article that said they used tshirts to bundle with physical sales or something. Idk how all of this works anyways lol. Just curious

    there's multiple links that shows different kinds of bundles for damn. i distinctly remember too because i listened to damn a lot when it came out and bundles were a big part of the promotion

  • Feb 23
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    Billboard did not acknowledge them so they did not factor into the sales