Dec 18, 2025
BIRTH CERTIFICATEthe last mono-cultural moment in the foreseeable future is GTA6 other than that everything is fragmented culturally thanks to social media and streaming services
i dont think no monoculture itself is a bad thing, i just think its happening at a time where everyone taking short cuts and everyting is so profit driven
Dec 18, 2025Of all of the reasons listed in OP, somehow Wale’s is the worst
- Dec 18, 2025·2 replies
Stankie“Legends” and Travis Scott in the same discussion
rodeo and dbr make him a legend if we being real
- Stankie 🪑Dec 18, 2025·1 replyv003
rodeo and dbr make him a legend if we being real
Absolutely not.
Dec 18, 2025v003nah theres been some like ice spice, doja etc but mostly women
it dont help things that a lot of the 30+ big rappers are youth maxxing talking about being vamps n s*** if we being real
Doja yes. Meg Yes. Cardi Yes. Ice Spice?? She's already out of here.
Dec 18, 2025when you put it out like that
- Dec 18, 2025·1 reply
KanyiggaClipse - hard
JID - hard
Freddie Gibbs - hard
Charge the Raper - hardlook on the bright side
jid and chance are not legends
- Dec 18, 2025BIRTH CERTIFICATE
yea i guess we used to niggas coming out the gate on some legendary s***. atleast thats how it used to be
When Drake debuted we knew exactly what it was, when Ye debuted it was a moment
aint nobody coming out with bodies of work that stand the test of time like that
standards are different now
Hmmmm. The biggest difference is that the guys with hits out of the gate were usually already in the industry or working overtime with music. A lot of these new guys blowing up are literally learning as they go along with the s***s.
- Dec 18, 2025WRU
jid and chance are not legends
maybe I read the thread title wrong
- Dec 18, 2025·1 replyv003
another thing outside of politics and social media, although social media is a big reason is art nowadays feels bad on all front. Theatres are barely a thing anymore. Game development is trash, theres no real big progress and optimization is getting worse somehow. For every helldivers 2 or good game you got another s***ty cod game etc.
literally no art is peaking rn
when was the last time you went to a theater
- Dec 18, 2025·1 reply
nightingalexogenuine question bc you seem to have thought about this already
what are the set of experiences that Gen Z / earliest Alphas haven't gone through that the millenials did?
Going outside and playing outside. You don't hear kids play outside or hang outside making memories due to the internet and new age parents keeping everyone inside.
- Dec 18, 2025nightingalexo
genuine question bc you seem to have thought about this already
what are the set of experiences that Gen Z / earliest Alphas haven't gone through that the millenials did?
your mobile device not being an extension of your personality
- Dec 18, 2025·1 replyWRU
when was the last time you went to a theater
few months ago. S*** wasnt empty or nun but im referring to streaming taking over and the warner bros s*** recently. its looking grim
- Dec 18, 2025·1 replyv003
few months ago. S*** wasnt empty or nun but im referring to streaming taking over and the warner bros s*** recently. its looking grim
jesus i thought you meant an actual theater. cinemas been cooked. theaters stay solid
- Dec 18, 2025·1 replyWRU
jesus i thought you meant an actual theater. cinemas been cooked. theaters stay solid
i dont think ive ever been an actual theatre
Dec 18, 2025title change is killing me
Dec 18, 2025·1 replyv003rodeo and dbr make him a legend if we being real
He’s the last rap superstar.
- Dec 18, 2025·2 repliesv003
i dont think ive ever been an actual theatre
yeah i know americans dont have that kinda tradition save for broadway
- Dec 18, 2025Jim Halpert
He’s the last rap superstar.
yeah i mean the rest died like juice or fell off ig like jack harlow
- Dec 18, 2025WRU
yeah i know americans dont have that kinda tradition save for broadway
s*** might be our last hope
KobeToTha 🇩🇴Dec 18, 2025·1 replyJim Halpertfrank
abel
kenny
drake
krit
rick
future
thug
Q
Zay
Meek
wale
ye
janelleand so many more literally all at once
Jesus man… it’s really attack of the clones in this era now
- Dec 18, 2025Jim Halpert
frank
abel
kenny
drake
krit
rick
future
thug
Q
Zay
Meek
wale
ye
janelleand so many more literally all at once
rereading this list makes me want to start crying
Dec 18, 2025·2 replies
GoshNiggas want classic albums or bust from the new niggas instead of seeing the vision and watching them develop
So they get called ass and discarded
Didn’t almost every legend come out the gate swinging with either a classic or very high quality body of work?
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted
A Tribe Called Quest - People’s Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Wu-Tang Clan - 36 Chambers
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Biggie - Ready to Die
OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Nas - Illmatic
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
Clipse - Lord Willin’
Kanye - The College Dropout
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin’
Kendrick Lamar - Overly Dedicated
Drake - So Far Gone
J. Cole - The Come Up
Nicki Minaj - Beam Me Up ScottyAll of these projects are either classic studio albums or very high quality mixtapes
- Dec 18, 2025TheFader
Didn’t almost every legend come out the gate swinging with either a classic or very high quality body of work?
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted
A Tribe Called Quest - People’s Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Wu-Tang Clan - 36 Chambers
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Biggie - Ready to Die
OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Nas - Illmatic
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
Clipse - Lord Willin’
Kanye - The College Dropout
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin’
Kendrick Lamar - Overly Dedicated
Drake - So Far Gone
J. Cole - The Come Up
Nicki Minaj - Beam Me Up ScottyAll of these projects are either classic studio albums or very high quality mixtapes
i think he's saying the difference is now that with the internet etc artists first mixtapes are up on spotify so its easier to write them off earlier.
where 50 had streets jams going crazy years before grodt
- Gosh 😹Dec 18, 2025·1 replyTheFader
Didn’t almost every legend come out the gate swinging with either a classic or very high quality body of work?
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted
A Tribe Called Quest - People’s Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Wu-Tang Clan - 36 Chambers
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Biggie - Ready to Die
OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Nas - Illmatic
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
Clipse - Lord Willin’
Kanye - The College Dropout
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin’
Kendrick Lamar - Overly Dedicated
Drake - So Far Gone
J. Cole - The Come Up
Nicki Minaj - Beam Me Up ScottyAll of these projects are either classic studio albums or very high quality mixtapes
Yes, but in a way no, they came out swinging to the PUBLIC with classics, they had to grind it out with no internet for years with no one seeing them be ass
These days everyone sees you from the beginning
Like I said earlier if someone dropped “skateboard nigga” or “bitch I’m in the club” today it would tarnish them forever
Back then you could drop mixtapes and hone your craft without anyone knowing, and when a label thought you were ready then you would drop your debut, but you put your 10k hours in
These days everyone’s 10k hours are on camera