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  • space0cadet

    feel like im gaining too fast
    183 --> 200 in 3 months
    thoughts?

    def on the higher end

    but i'd say if you look at the mirror, and still feel good, don't bother decreasing cal intake (but probably dont increase it anymore either)

  • Undun

    dude you need to incorporate strength training, you can only progressive overload so much until your muscles are use to the weight

    And as a noob it’s just not realistic to be able to gauge how to adequately manipulate volume with lower weights (another form of progressive overload) as it would be to just increase intensity(strength/weight on the bar). Even for a gym vet this is unproductive because of time. Studies show 5 reps of like 90% 1RM produces the same amount of hypertrophy as like a f***ing 25+ rep set with half your 1RM.

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    space0cadet

    feel like im gaining too fast
    183 --> 200 in 3 months
    thoughts?

    17 lbs in 3 months is a lot. If u just started lifting and have top tier genes then at most 6 lbs of that is muscle. But realistically you’re looking at 1-3 lbs of muscle and the rest being fluff + water weight. I’d def dial it back unless you’re one of those guys who started out insanely underweight. Putting on that much fluff if you already had above 15% body fat is just a recipe for a terrible and painful cut.

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    GodsFavoritePerson

    Most aesthetic, while having insane mass, physique of all time

    Goat

    Not a single flaw to bee seen

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    GodsFavoritePerson

    Wait this guy just said pull ups are too hard on the body?

    Pull ups are probably the single least taxing exercice on the joints one can do

  • Super Future

    Goat

    Not a single flaw to bee seen

    Fr dudes just a specimen. Can’t be human !

  • Aug 16, 2021
    GodsFavoritePerson

    17 lbs in 3 months is a lot. If u just started lifting and have top tier genes then at most 6 lbs of that is muscle. But realistically you’re looking at 1-3 lbs of muscle and the rest being fluff + water weight. I’d def dial it back unless you’re one of those guys who started out insanely underweight. Putting on that much fluff if you already had above 15% body fat is just a recipe for a terrible and painful cut.

    thanks ill cut it down a bit! perhaps ill post some pics here and see how much people think I should bulk more

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    Undun

    dude you need to incorporate strength training, you can only progressive overload so much until your muscles are use to the weight

    Nobody ever said anything about not doing strength training, where u get that from?

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    GodsFavoritePerson

    Yeah good luck. It’s significantly easier to induce significant stress on your muscles through weights. Of course body weight movements will build muscle but typically no where near what weights will do. The stress to fatigue/effort ratio isn’t even comparable.

    It honestly depends on how the exercises are being performed. I can do slow rep dips and do waay better than youre doing on ur bench press bouncin 225 off ur chest lol increasing time under tension will do wonders

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    Super Future

    Pull ups are probably the single least taxing exercice on the joints one can do

    No they are not lol wtf ur basically lifting ur whole body weight... I have 2 disc herniations and its impossible for me to do pull ups without getting horrible back pain

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    Gmbruh

    No they are not lol wtf ur basically lifting ur whole body weight... I have 2 disc herniations and its impossible for me to do pull ups without getting horrible back pain

    I mean if you have a f***ed up back you cant really use your specific anecdotal evidence to gauge the hardness of an exercice on the body lol

    Try having a person do a 3x5 on deadlifts (with a weight close to their 5RM), then on another day do whichever huge number of pullups you judge sufficient and see how ridiculously easy it is to recover from pullups, on a central nervous system level, as well as your muscles themselves

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    Super Future

    I mean if you have a f***ed up back you cant really use your specific anecdotal evidence to gauge the hardness of an exercice on the body lol

    Try having a person do a 3x5 on deadlifts (with a weight close to their 5RM), then on another day do whichever huge number of pullups you judge sufficient and see how ridiculously easy it is to recover from pullups, on a central nervous system level, as well as your muscles themselves

    What?

    I can easily substite pull ups with inverted rows and perform them until failure without pain since they require less effort and cause less stress on the surronding area (since u lift less weight) and therefore am also able to perform them with better form, equaling less pain

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    Gmbruh

    It honestly depends on how the exercises are being performed. I can do slow rep dips and do waay better than youre doing on ur bench press bouncin 225 off ur chest lol increasing time under tension will do wonders

    Lol a person benching 250 lbs probaably has 3x your chest size unless you accomodate for the weight lifted by weighting your dips

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    Super Future

    Lol a person benching 250 lbs probaably has 3x your chest size unless you accomodate for the weight lifted by weighting your dips

    Lol my mans, go do some googling about time under tension and what it does to muscles

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    Gmbruh

    What?

    I can easily substite pull ups with inverted rows and perform them until failure without pain since they require less effort and cause less stress on the surronding area (since u lift less weight) and therefore am also able to perform them with better form, equaling less pain

    The word you’re looking for is compound vs isolation work

    While it’s true compound exercices are more tiring on the CNS than isolation work ( they’re also more effective at building muscle), pullups are especially easy to get used to and you will in no time be able to do sets of 10 everyday without ever facing the consequences you would if you ever tried deadlifting everyday

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    Super Future

    The word you’re looking for is compound vs isolation work

    While it’s true compound exercices are more tiring on the CNS than isolation work ( they’re also more effective at building muscle), pullups are especially easy to get used to and you will in no time be able to do sets of 10 everyday without ever facing the consequences you would if you ever tried deadlifting everyday

    Wow mans really went on to talk about the difference between compound and isolation exercises LMAOOOOOO

    Im done yo 🤣

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    Gmbruh

    Lol my mans, go do some googling about time under tension and what it does to muscles

    Bro Ive been there before and i advise you to take my word for it that a beginner doesnt have to worry about mega-hypertrophy oriented tricks like slow reps

    Just focus on doing your big 3 lifts with very few isolation work if you want bigger arms or calves or whatever and come back in a year to reassess

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    Gmbruh

    Wow mans really went on to talk about the difference between compound and isolation exercises LMAOOOOOO

    Im done yo 🤣

    You’re very stupid and you just annoyed me. Good luck

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    Super Future

    Bro Ive been there before and i advise you to take my word for it that a beginner doesnt have to worry about mega-hypertrophy oriented tricks like slow reps

    Just focus on doing your big 3 lifts with very few isolation work if you want bigger arms or calves or whatever and come back in a year to reassess

    Big 3 lifts. Meaning Bench, squat, and deadlift?

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    Super Future

    Bro Ive been there before and i advise you to take my word for it that a beginner doesnt have to worry about mega-hypertrophy oriented tricks like slow reps

    Just focus on doing your big 3 lifts with very few isolation work if you want bigger arms or calves or whatever and come back in a year to reassess

    Bro im not a beginner lol ive been in active training for almost 10 years and personally worked with some of the best all around personal trainers in my country, some of which have trained current NBA players lol

    Im just tryna get rid of using weights altogether as they cause more harm than good in the long run. Go watch Sylvester Stallone talk about this on Athlean X.

    Its quite obvious to me that you cannot even grasp what Im talkin about and therefore I don't see a reason for this discussion to continue, no hard feelings

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    CLB Wineboy

    Big 3 lifts. Meaning Bench, squat, and deadlift?

    Aint no big 3, its always been 5... if you leave out OHP and rows u in for a whole bunch of muscle imbalances which can f*** up your body and make you look funny over time

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    CLB Wineboy

    Big 3 lifts. Meaning Bench, squat, and deadlift?

    Yes, pressing overhead too, as well as a vertical pulling exercice like pullups or chinups

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    Gmbruh

    Bro im not a beginner lol ive been in active training for almost 10 years and personally worked with some of the best all around personal trainers in my country, some of which have trained current NBA players lol

    Im just tryna get rid of using weights altogether as they cause more harm than good in the long run. Go watch Sylvester Stallone talk about this on Athlean X.

    Its quite obvious to me that you cannot even grasp what Im talkin about and therefore I don't see a reason for this discussion to continue, no hard feelings

    Training for a specific sports is different than training for general fitness

    I doubt your strength coaches would advise against compound exercices (with weights) if the goal was for strength and aesthetics lol

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    Gmbruh

    Aint no big 3, its always been 5... if you leave out OHP and rows u in for a whole bunch of muscle imbalances which can f*** up your body and make you look funny over time

    Pullups are enough if you’re deadlifting and you can focus on adding more exercices after a year or so, but you can do your stupid rows if you insist, they’re good at developing thickness, provided you dont sacrifice a good set of deadlifts in order to do them 🤣

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    Super Future

    Pullups are enough if you’re deadlifting and you can focus on adding more exercices after a year or so, but you can do your stupid rows if you insist, they’re good at developing thickness, provided you dont sacrifice a good set of deadlifts in order to do them 🤣

    The deadlift is primarily a lower body exercise when performed properly lol go read a book and stop quoting me already