I understand why the interpolations matter and I agree the DJ tags do matter

But he could’ve added more material.

I just banged a snus in canada waters so good but is 2:15 and 30 second is an intro

Cmon flesh out the damn song

Fair enough tbh I want more material next time too. Hope that Dean blunt collab come out too, I do wish he was more explicit and advanced in his rap writing too sometimes

for sure. lately, these upcoming rappers from the ug scene been hella promising. makes me excited to witness them grow and get better with time.

Yea I feel like most artists that have lyrical focuses suffer from this, I really wish they didn’t. Writing is an art man, I’m glad labels are starting to adapt because it’s the most common Achilles for a lot of artists like Jpeg. S*** even in non lyrical music, I’ve appreciated seeing just more out there ideas in writing to communicate excess, like che lately, Ken is a terrible writer but as he got more creative and funny it added a layer to his music.

I don't think anyone suggested that new rappers have zero substance

Its the fact that the AMOUNT/DEPTH of substance is low RELATIVE to rappers of previous generations

Its not as blk and white as substance or no substance, the conversation should be more nuanced than that

Idk I have a post here earlier about some albums in specific going in depth and I feel like we r still getting p in depth touching work, the amount of substance in the game is overall less sure maybe but my point is everywhere you look, even in these artists who don’t really focus on being “substantive” per se in a conventional obvious way you can find it yknow. I’d agree it’s never that black and white, for sure and that’s a good point

If we wanna say like oh in overt political commentary or say rap skill or in depth articulate writing that’s pretty fair for the people I said other than doechii but I purposely left out the people that are known 4 that

Cuz like, I see a lot of people say the ringtone era eas better for that because “well there was still some kind of effort in writing and those rappers still had moments of talking about s***” and Was kinda inspired by that to make this actually.

I want people to just open their eyes to it where it isn’t apparent. Mans talk about it like it’s just robots that can’t communicate no heart. Like I’ve never heard people outside veeze fans talk about how crushing and real Veeze can get. We just dismiss what’s there and brush past it not reallly even listening for what we want I feel.

RT

God yall are so negative

@Andre_Mackonen this jim guy is f***ing fire

KTT became the home of a bunch of 30 year olds that are out of touch and love to complain, they've became the thing they hated the most

i disagre with @OP despite not listening to any of the music listed and i think it's very important i tell him so for 7 pages straight

all this cause we not fans of white rappers that do cosplay of our very city Nayuta?

I’ve already agreed with the rappers listed that I do think for the substance category lol

lmfao right

REAL yea i loved his new album. Theres so much people missed from it too about what hes really saying, the story hes telling, ho wcultural that album is tell me more what u fw about him

Just because something sounds deep doesn't mean it is deep lol

have you heard what was posted or knew what the lyrics were or are you just assuming it isnt cause of who made it?I see most of whats been posted as just emotionally effective and vulnerable

You know what I actually think you are right. I know the 454, Veeze and Jim Legxacy songs which are great.

But I don't think the Carti and Yeat songs are particularly deep which is what I saw at first and why I posted that

ah real asf then respect

for those two the carti song isnt "deep" in isolation, but i captioned that to say how wlr as it goes on esp with die4guy shows it was an expression of carti's grief through the extreme, abrasive ethos of the project and that song was effectively written to show him as a kid looking up to his criminal older brother that passed not long before recording.

as for yeat id disagree think 2093 was quite deep it has some very effective writing and i think as a whole is a really revealing portrait of the road to sobriety, and an overstimulated split mind. Bought the earth is an emotional peak on it and has some really resonate lines like where he plainly just yells "off the d**** but i miss them" even if simple at many times and/or just incredibly cryptic. esp in the context of his career at this point and the music hes made. the album is clearly a wrestle between "different personalities/voices" in his head as he puts it as he swings between depression and grandiose mania, which is prolly why that album sounds so much dif from his previous stuff.

I need to listen to 2093 again. Is one of the few Yeat projects that didn't connect with me upon release and I've only listened to it twice front to back. Your explanation for the album sounds intriguing

every artist at bare minimum has spoken on some kind of addiction or substance abuse, unfortunately a lot of these new niggas just mad derivative and ain’t that good

also u can enjoy art and not justify it or pine for validation of that art

Bert Kreischer has more substance than many of these rappers lol.

A big thing nowadays in making music, is forgetting the music part