eversince

10mo

being vulnerable doesn't always elevate the writing though

i think it comes down to the quality of writing and also the delivery.
like imagine if the writing had the quality of adrianne lenker or phil elverum

would be insane

Smacked Voodoo

10mo

Just peeped who OP is.

Thank f*** I went ahead and blocked this kid. Y'all gotta stop entertaining these 22 year old posters.

Andre Jaquet

10mo

why should I get out the genre I didn’t choose to be in a genre dawg this is what I was raised in this just the default

I don’t think we need people in the genre if they can’t talk about the music without getting personal like you are rn. I ain’t even slighting or discrediting any music. Just disagree respectfully man. It’s music. There’s no objective vulnerable or touching art its not measurable like 1+1 it’s just opinions it’s not the end of the world if we disagree

Smacked Voodoo

10mo

Just peeped who OP is.

Thank f*** I went ahead and blocked this kid. Y'all gotta stop entertaining these 22 year old posters.

Valentine

10mo

you typed an essay about STDs up your ass because you’re gay and thought a nigga was tryna erase your Palestine history cause you were called charmin ultra soft for tryna a***yze white pain i.e. you acting like a c***
hit the streets champ, we got it from here

Valentine

10mo

Break this one down for me king

Andre Jaquet

10mo

I would like to talk about this acc it’s an interesting point

I mean would you say songs can be vulnerable or an album can be contextualized through when someone is vulnerable? We have whole genres that aren’t based on the album format I feel like this is quite a novel definition of vulnerability. Whether it convinces u the person isn’t just lying and u can have empathy for their words taking it as genuine, I feel like that’s just a. Matter of whether you think they executed it properly and it hitting you that way is wildly subjective.
I think a***yzing whether people do real d**** or not is a bit silly, we can never know, and I’d rather just look at if the music itself is evoking something.

Also I’ve said people that have moments of vulnerability but also peoples who’s whole careers or albums are full of it. The framing of it within a story is only one tool. Future doesn’t have whole albums of vulnerability but it’s in the subtext through the rare moments he lays it out. But we’d still say future is an incredibly emotional vulnerable rapper right?

Specifically for the full projects thing I’ll get more specific for what ur looking for:

Nino paid’s love me as I am is nothing but vulnerability and reflection, and so is every lil Tony project
Untiljapan’s trompe l’oiel has an arc of heartbreak and is incredibly emotional and earnest
2093 is a chaotic long project that digs into this cycle of chaos, pain, and emotions in years fractured mind while also touching on his sobriety journey, which frames the wave of chaos after drowning in d**** for years
Mike’s discography is a chronicle of his growth as a person and each album since 2019 has been a step in growth from getting over the passing of his mother
Fakemink’s music portrays an ambitious mentally unwell young man prone to toxic relationships through a hazy, disoreinted lens
Veeze’s album gets slower and more dark with time, starting as a silly eclectic Detroit trap record then devolving into a somber colourless portrayal of the death, addiction, coping, and family issues that necessitate the d**** on the cover to cope
Jim Legxacy’s project samples and interpolates historic black British music staples throughout and the whole album is about his sister’s death, homelessness, his fathers abandonment of the family, and a stream of consciousness portraying the road from avoidance and distraction to the last song, a funeral song for his sister where the lyrics visualize her coffin being layed as they said goodbye, with moments of commentary on drill music all serving in subtext to portray his heritage and black British conditions. Even the cover directly references a book about the history of black British music and look at what the 3 slides show it longs up. His sister’s coffin, the mud he came from, busses, ski masks, landmarks, the car on his face etc etc
454’s name is after his the engine his father had in their car I believe which inspired his love for music and his production style samples the records of that era while he talks about all types of life dealings, losses, upbringing, and his father through it.

I pointed out the ones where it’s exceptions for said artist so as to point out these people are capable of vulnerability and imo have touched on some pretty personal s*** in their lives in a clearly earnest way sometimes, as I’ve had a lot of convos where people say “well atleast rappers back then would sometimes have some real s*** in their albums about their life like ludacris.

deleteduser579

10mo

Consistently one of the worst posters on here

insertcoolnamehere

10mo

I’m never hearing it for yeat bro im sorry. I’m just not doing it until folks explain why he talks like he not from oregon.

Authenticity matters to some listeners. It doesnt to others. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that.

Future actually does have albums full of vulnerability btw (hndrxx and save me)

Mike the best person in this list (i havent checked out jim but he’s on my backlog for sure) because he actually connects the young (niontay, salimata, 454, etc.) AND the old niggas (danny brown, alchemist, wiki, etc)

has the most appeal and no matter what kinda backdrop he is over (whether plugg, his own, or tony seltzer) he’s gonna always give you himself.

Love 454 tho, casts of a dreamer one of my fav projects that year.

Smacked Voodoo

10mo

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Be doing that same goofy ass always tryna argue and be right about some s*** that doesn't even require anybody being right or wrong thing like that condom eyes mfer. Just annoying bruh lmao

eversince

10mo

need new artists writing about love and heartbreak like frank ocean

why is there a lack of incredible writers

Smacked Voodoo

10mo

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Be doing that same goofy ass always tryna argue and be right about some s*** that doesn't even require anybody being right or wrong thing like that condom eyes mfer. Just annoying bruh lmao

Valentine

10mo

nigga creating scenarios so he can keep arguing

this nigga a Melz/Condom Eyes symbiote

@​S done activated a new AI on us lmaoo

he probably gone think I’m being genocidal calling him AI

Valentine

10mo

them users who have the ability to respond to everyone within seconds always be the same type of person at the end of the day

niggas come from the greatdivine school of KTT essays

Andre Jaquet

10mo

See I’m just talking about rap but if u want suggestions:

I feel like Untiljapan writes about love and heartbreak in a really touching way, in other genres I can’t speak to it as much but frank is one of the best writers ever that’s a high bar

Black county new road I love for their writing still feel like charli has good pop writing, big thief, but yea it’s lacking I feel

HBDUSA

10mo

Jxm legacy got brought up and while I do really like his new album

It’s f***ing 34 minutes and half of it is interpolated lyrics and DJ tags

2 years since his last project and the s*** has like 20 minutes of original material

Frustrating

eversince

10mo

yea i know youre talking about rap. im just sayin singing/rapping/whatever--writing is still writing.

if anything, rapping prob gives you a greater canvas to work with.

i love charli's writing too, esp when its heartfelt like her songs "forever" and "i think about it all the time".

I've really been enjoying mkgee's songwriting.