NanoTheKid

1y

We talking about albums, original creations.

The fact that people can’t defend the albums and immediately jump to mixtapes to defend Wayne is the biggest tell that this take isn’t too off the mark.

HBDUSA

1y

Zoomer take

NanoTheKid

1y

We talking about albums, original creations.

The fact that people can’t defend the albums and immediately jump to mixtapes to defend Wayne is the biggest tell that this take isn’t too off the mark.

Mafia Boss

1y

both are classic albums lmao.

Sir Real

1y

People who think mixtapes are somehow less than albums are clueless (and probably racist) losers who don’t understand how hip hop in particular works, or music as a whole for that matter.

It’s a really dog s***, cynical, and ahistorical way of looking at music in general. The same thing that mixtapes do has largely been the format for a large part of music history. Offering a new take on an already existing song isn’t lazy or uninventive. In fact this is largely how music progressed and new sounds were discovered for centuries going back to spirituals and folk songs. Even amongst modern music, whether that be the Great American Song Book, the way jazz takes songs and reinvents them hundreds of times over in new ways, or even just the simple act of sampling and interpolation which is practiced across genres

Charles Mingus for example would re-record his own compositions multiple times in radically different ways under different titles. He consider his compositions to be “living documents” that could be reinterpreted and built upon forever. Someone doing this with someone else’s original composition is no less legitimate.

But when it comes to rap specifically, discounting mixtapes as being lesser than albums is an insanely white take and extremely disrespectful to a culture which has always had mixtapes as a centerpiece.

shirxsi9995

1y

ehhh both are quickly fading, c3 not as much but that’s only cause lolipop & a milli

shirxsi9995

1y

It’s about having an original piece of art that’s top tier quality wise. B**** ass nobodies on the internet crying racism cause 30 track freestyle tapes with s***ty mixing, out dated beats, and no real song structure getting left out of the conversation of high art

shirxsi9995

1y

It’s about having an original piece of art that’s top tier quality wise. B**** ass nobodies on the internet crying racism cause 30 track freestyle tapes with s***ty mixing, out dated beats, and no real song structure getting left out of the conversation of high art

shirxsi9995

1y

It’s about having an original piece of art that’s top tier quality wise. B**** ass nobodies on the internet crying racism cause 30 track freestyle tapes with s***ty mixing, out dated beats, and no real song structure getting left out of the conversation of high art

Sir Real

1y

People who think mixtapes are somehow less than albums are clueless (and probably racist) losers who don’t understand how hip hop in particular works, or music as a whole for that matter.

It’s a really dog s***, cynical, and ahistorical way of looking at music in general. The same thing that mixtapes do has largely been the format for a large part of music history. Offering a new take on an already existing song isn’t lazy or uninventive. In fact this is largely how music progressed and new sounds were discovered for centuries going back to spirituals and folk songs. Even amongst modern music, whether that be the Great American Song Book, the way jazz takes songs and reinvents them hundreds of times over in new ways, or even just the simple act of sampling and interpolation which is practiced across genres

Charles Mingus for example would re-record his own compositions multiple times in radically different ways under different titles. He consider his compositions to be “living documents” that could be reinterpreted and built upon forever. Someone doing this with someone else’s original composition is no less legitimate.

But when it comes to rap specifically, discounting mixtapes as being lesser than albums is an insanely white take and extremely disrespectful to a culture which has always had mixtapes as a centerpiece.

sfsorrow

1y

i'm putting drought 3 against literally any album quality wise lmao. show me anybody rapping better than this. this is high art

shirxsi9995

1y

I love dd3 but it’s still like a 6.5-7. This is really good rapping, not elite, and Wayne does have 10/10 verses and songs his quality is just all over the place. There’s a million nobodies that drop king Los type freestyles that’s not impressive. Making great albums is where the real challenge is at

Sir Real

1y

You’re a f***ing moron that doesn’t understand how music works

All of those verses are original pieces of art goofy

You guys draw arbitrary lines that are completely devoid of any sort of consistent reasoning

Do you have a problem with Kanye or Alc using a loop if that track happens to be on an album?

NanoTheKid

1y

We talking about albums, original creations.

The fact that people can’t defend the albums and immediately jump to mixtapes to defend Wayne is the biggest tell that this take isn’t too off the mark.

shirxsi9995

1y

I clearly understand music better than you goof go cry about your favorite rapper not being able to compare to real goats

shirxsi9995

1y

I love dd3 but it’s still like a 6.5-7. This is really good rapping, not elite, and Wayne does have 10/10 verses and songs his quality is just all over the place. There’s a million nobodies that drop king Los type freestyles that’s not impressive. Making great albums is where the real challenge is at

HBDUSA

1y

Zoomer take

LaSean

1y

As a millennial that used to be a Wayne fan I agree that wayne is overrated

shirxsi9995

1y

I love dd3 but it’s still like a 6.5-7. This is really good rapping, not elite, and Wayne does have 10/10 verses and songs his quality is just all over the place. There’s a million nobodies that drop king Los type freestyles that’s not impressive. Making great albums is where the real challenge is at