This thread became a proxy to argue capitalism v socialism/communism instead of the actual topic lol

Hope not. Because they spend about 1/3 of what the US spends

Because the council will be responsible to the ppl in the community?

it’s not conservative talking points, it’s economic theory talking points.

entrepreneurs do drive innovation, it’s like, if you have 300+ million people who can, at any point in time, think of any kind of product or innovation, then you have a way better chance of coming up with something great as opposed to 10-20 people in higher governmental positions.

and people can definitely think of and develop a product at any point in time, and even distribute individually if they sell independently (create their own website, advertise, sell product off of it)

the only issue is, when they get bigger, than yes, they will most likely need capital investment from investors, or find a distributor, but no matter what, they are still able to do any of that. And it’s a product, they, the individual created. Not some government idea

And then let’s say they hit it big and expand, then they hire employees, and boom, you’ve just created x amount of jobs for people.

in order for an economy to sustain realistically, you need jobs to constantly be created. the government, as one entity, simply cannot handle the jobs for 300+ million people

edit; as a matter of fact, as a socialist or communist, you should welcome entrepreneurship/ innovation, because as schumpeter said, capitalism is too efficient. constant innovations will cause it to destroy itself, leading to socialism (which he did not what to happen but that’s besides the point lol)

Switzerland and Finland have by far the best quality of life in the world with the best government programs and benefits

No one in any reality would call them the #1 country in the world right? Everyone says its either America or China.

So the US milktaru should charge the Tik Tok offices

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Just like democratically elected politicians are responsible for the community?

The government has been doing that actually. We fined them $5 billion last year on account of what i was talking about. And they are being policed even harder now by the government.

Just vote them out

the idea is for both states and corporations to become redudant and thus obsolete, but that's a long way away

I would call Switzerland the best place in the world to live along with Singapore

I’m not sure what else should constitute being a #1 country

But apparently it’s not working?

The #1 country in my opinion is the country we should all look towards in influencing the world the most. And I would say that is either the US or China right now. Switzerland and Finland gets to be what they are because of our protection.

Switzerland It is incredibly expensive over there.

Why can’t the US be more like those places? (Without saying it’s too big)

Why are we ranking countries lmao

I hit it big in the last five years.

Because $5 billion isn't enough against China, a country worth trillions. Ultimately though, our actions against China have been working in that their economy has taken huge hits since we hit em with tariffs. But their ability to hire people for pennies is still going to be a huge advantage in how much they have developed and even surpassed us in.

Cause US-centric rhetoric permeates popular culture across the world 😭

Daughter of my neighbor a doctor in Switzerland still comes to Germany to buy groceries

Jheeeeeze

What I'm saying is what is going to stop the community from devolving to what he have here ?

Because this structure implies that there is a means of production without corporations, what is that means?

Always #2 to America

Central Planning from the government always leads to people cooking the books to make sure they hit their quotas or be sent to the gulags. Happened in the USSR and in China under Mao.

Also look where Russia is now. A third world country in disguise.

They are all cheapskates tho.

y'all really say anything huh

when you rent out someone's place you are engaging in a voluntary exchange

when landlords violate their contracts and break the law that's when its f***ed, but you're the one living on their property :​