Interesting, didn’t think about it like that, gonna go through the top 50 just to see for myself but always wondered why I would always see longer albums perform better, good insight

Depends

Mix that in with rabid stans who prioritize their favorites album sales more than album quality and it’s quite easy to see why some artists like Drake have no issues dropping streaming slop

Just using the numbers in your example if you play a 21 song album 20 times that’s 420 streams. If you play a 12 song album 25 times that’s 300 streams

So wouldnt this defeat the argument of more songs = more streams?

But i dont think its as black and white as people are making it.

Yall rn: math is math

No one is forced to listen to a complete album
People tweet all the time how they don't finish an album on drop day or they not returning to it

Chris Brown drops 30 song projects and doesn't sell a lot comparatively to the top acts

GNX had 12 songs but sold 300k
It's almost like quality + hype can get you a big first week, not purely based on song count 😳

Yeah we need a new guy - stat. These unstable geezers and their beefs are all there is to talk about for any significant length of time and with passion in hiphop rn

And I’m not just talking about Drake and Kendrick

There’s always gonna be exceptions but for the most part more songs = more streams especially when it comes to the first couple of weeks an album drops where people are more likely to run through every song

GNX would’ve sold more if it was longer, because of the hype and his position in the industry currently

Thank god that isn this priority

Obviously 10 vs 25 for an extreme example. yea its easier with 25. But after a certain point i dont think it matters.

Well, both are true. Do you actually think GNX wouldn't have sold more first week if it had 6 more songs? People would have checked those songs out just because of said quality and hype.

If you are a major artist that generates hype, longer albums are going to give you bigger first weeks. If you aren't a major artist, it isn't going to help you much.

Thriller, Graduation

Albums like these are the reward for us, the exception not the expectation. But I’m realizing this may be the bare minimum for the general public, that’s the real twist. I used to think the twist was that the general public is more averse than apathetic towards albums

It doesn’t depend. The evidence is right there.

Of the albums that make up the Top 50 of the Biggest Streaming Weeks ever:

• the average number of tracks per album is 20.16
• exactly half of the albums are 20 or more tracks
• only 14/50 albums are 16 or less tracks
• the shortest album on the list is SOUR with 11 tracks, it’s the only project with that few tracks within the Top 50, meaning it’s basically impossible to release a 10-track album and have a huge debut streaming week

Not necessarily true. It has nothing to do with being a major artist or not, has everything to do with people actually just checking for your music.

Artists like Chris Brown, Gunna and Cardi B have all scored #1 albums & multiple top 10 hits. They've also released albums with 20, 30+ songs that didn't put any massive streaming numbers in their first day or first week.

The evidence disagrees with you.

If you replace their 20-30 track albums with lesser track albums, they sell/stream less, it’s pretty simple.

Nobody is saying you automatically go platinum, but you do wrack up more streams/sells than you would’ve had with a 12 track album

I've said this many times before but it's not an exact science. Having more songs doesn't automatically equate to having more streams and having fewer songs doesn't automatically equate to fewer streams, whether in the first week or after 6 months.

A good example: Her Loss (16 songs) and For All the Dogs (23 songs) amassed similar US streams in the first week.

Billie Eilish's latest album is her album with the fewest songs yet (10 songs) but it's on pace to be her most streamed album yet and that's an album that followed right after an album many considered weaker than her debut album. All she had to do was make something people really f***ed with and she was right back.

The trick is always gonna be making an album that's compelling. That's really just it. It won't matter if the album only has 10 songs because if people love those 10 songs, they'll spend more time coming back to them than if you dropped an album with 30 songs and people only cared for like 4 of them. That's why Chris Brown can drop a 60 track album and won't come anywhere close to crossing 200k first week.

We’re talking about first week sales.

HIT ME HARD AND SOFT is #110 on the Biggest Streaming Weeks ever, and did not clear 200M streams in its debut week.

There are ZERO 10-track albums that have ever cleared that many streams in a single week. It is virtually impossible.

The average number of tracks per album in the Top 50 streaming weeks is exactly 20.16.

The evidence clearly indicates that, for major artists, it is much more likely to amass a super high debut streaming weeks if you put more tracks on your album

But @mangotflu told me this album was a failure

I love that the streaming gap between Drake and everyone else in hip hop keeps increasing. If you’re gonna betray everything hip hop supposedly stands for to destroy the guy keeping the lights on make sure he’s actually dead

Iceman doing 400 at minimum and will have longer staying power than gnx considering gnx is freefalling off the top 200 next year and yes… yes I will be calling that a win :)

It’s not doing 400K unless it’s 25+ tracks. It most likely will have more staying power because it will probably be near double the length of GNX. But it absolutely is not doing 3M in one year like GNX.

We’re back to arguing with basic math I see

This b**** could fart 19 times on an album and all 19 tracks would sell 500,000 units