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  • And wouldn't a more rabid fanbase be a better in the long run than just passive listening with no core fanbase?

  • Jul 31, 2023

    the hoops some of you will jump through to prop up your faves, lol

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    shaleirose

    The type of music Lil Baby makes dominates streaming (ESPECIALLY Apple Music), plus the majority of Beyonce’s audience is not consuming her music via streaming services

    In 2018/2019 yeah, but not anymore. In 2020/2021 Lil Baby was insanely far ahead of every other rapper. Even Future never came close to the numbers he was doing. Since 2022 rap has been falling off hella fast but Lil Baby is still doing wild numbers & outselling a lot of pop artists meanwhilst you guys are discrediting that because he doesn't sell tour tickets lol

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    mangotflu

    It has, but what makes that interesting is it was never meant to be lol. Music like Beyonce was what was always meant to be mainstream & everywhere. Everyone is always shocked when they find out My Turn outsold After Hours by a lot and that's because people aren't used to rappers actually being mainstream

    You’re turning the conversation isn’t something else entirely.

    All we’re saying is that streaming doesn’t tell the whole story when it comes to who the biggest artists are

  • Jul 31, 2023
    mangotflu

    It isnt and im not saying streaming isn't more passive lol, im just saying streaming isn't passive in itself, especially on the artists side

    What does “passive in itself” mean actually idk if I get that

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    mangotflu

    yeah, thanks to having a rabid fanbase, but now she's been dominated by Lil Baby meanwhile you think that means nothing

    bra she’s doing SOLD OUT STADIUMS

    LIL BABY JUST HAD TO CANCEL VENUES

  • Jul 31, 2023

    holy s*** this site is nuts

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    deleteduser579

    bra she’s doing SOLD OUT STADIUMS

    LIL BABY JUST HAD TO CANCEL VENUES

    See what I mean. Another dumbass discrediting a successful artist for no reason

  • Jul 31, 2023
    mangotflu

    Beyonce's recent album was generic run of the mill dance music though. For an artist as big as her she should have definitely done a lot better but she's failed at getting the younger (25 and under) generation interested in her music. Whilst Taylor Swift has done an extremely good job at recapturing that audience and it's why she's now arguably at the peak of her whole ass career

    There’s so much to unpack here about music accessibility and songwriting that you definitely don’t consider given your first sentence is all about periphery and not execution

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    mangotflu

    See what I mean. Another dumbass discrediting a successful artist for no reason

    yeah you gotta be a troll of some sort lmao, imma pray for you man

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    4m US album units, there's less than 10 artists that have done that in the last 5 years btw

    but yeah, apparently it means nothing

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    deleteduser579

    yeah you gotta be a troll of some sort lmao, imma pray for you man

    you gotta be old as hell or racist

  • “discrediting a successful artist”

    beyonce is essentially the closest we got to an MJ figure (save Kanye) in terms of stature, and you’re putting her down for lil baby

    like these niggas on here can’t be serious man

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    mangotflu

    In 2018/2019 yeah, but not anymore. In 2020/2021 Lil Baby was insanely far ahead of every other rapper. Even Future never came close to the numbers he was doing. Since 2022 rap has been falling off hella fast but Lil Baby is still doing wild numbers & outselling a lot of pop artists meanwhilst you guys are discrediting that because he doesn't sell tour tickets lol

    Lil Baby dominates streaming because he makes music that dominates streaming, and he drops 22+ song albums.

    It doesn’t mean he’s bigger than BEYONCÉ

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    shaleirose

    Lil Baby dominates streaming because he makes music that dominates streaming, and he drops 22+ song albums.

    It doesn’t mean he’s bigger than BEYONCÉ

    My argument isn't that he's bigger though lol, you guys are twisting s***

    My argument is that Lil Baby's music is more popular and that you guys go the furthest to discredit artists like Lil Baby, whilst holding up these legacy acts like Beyonce, it comes off as very oldhead. it's some sort of s*** I'd expect to read on /r/popheads

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    Renaissance isn’t a Drake/Taylor album level smash on streaming cause the production nor songwriting (but ESPECIALLY the songwriting) isn’t the most universally catchy music out there. Nor is it relevant to the spirit or experiences of younger generations the way a Drake, Taylor, Bad Bunny or any mega huge streaming act is

    Like just look at the current biggest streaming acts songwriting and content and compare that to Renaissance lmao

  • Jul 31, 2023
    mangotflu

    4m US album units, there's less than 10 artists that have done that in the last 5 years btw

    but yeah, apparently it means nothing

    No one’s saying it means “nothing”, we’re just saying it doesn’t tell the whole story, especially if he’s struggling to fill up venues.

    The way you’re talking, Lil Baby should be on a sold out global stadium tour right now

  • Jul 31, 2023

    yeah @mangotflu might just be an idiot lol

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    mangotflu

    you gotta be old as hell or racist

    ^ discrediting a black woman

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    mangotflu

    My argument isn't that he's bigger though lol, you guys are twisting s***

    My argument is that Lil Baby's music is more popular and that you guys go the furthest to discredit artists like Lil Baby, whilst holding up these legacy acts like Beyonce, it comes off as very oldhead. it's some sort of s*** I'd expect to read on /r/popheads

    You’re the one that said a couple hours ago that Lil Baby is bigger than Beyoncé

    Nobody’s discrediting him, you just invited him open to criticism by saying he’s bigger than BEYONCÉ of all people

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    i mean since we wanna play that card lol

  • Jul 31, 2023

    As for the Lil Baby and Beyonce thing tho, Lil Baby’s music is currently more popular than Beyoncé’s for sure. It’s like a million arguments are happening at once tho lol

  • Jul 31, 2023

    Lil Baby is not bigger than Beyoncé tho

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    BRAVE

    Renaissance isn’t a Drake/Taylor album level smash on streaming cause the production nor songwriting (but ESPECIALLY the songwriting) isn’t the most universally catchy music out there. Nor is it relevant to the spirit or experiences of younger generations the way a Drake, Taylor, Bad Bunny or any mega huge streaming act is

    Like just look at the current biggest streaming acts songwriting and content and compare that to Renaissance lmao

    Man J Cole's recent album The Fall Off was streamed 2-3x more than Beyonce's and that has 10x more intricate songwriting than her album. That's a s*** excuse

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