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  • Apr 30, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    Boy, stop. Morgan Wallen is still yet to outstream Drake's catalog in a calendar year. Drake has been the most streamed artist in the US every year from 2015-2022 (with the exception of 2019 when Post Malone outdid him by a tiny margin).

    Morgan has 3 albums out and while they're pulling massive streams every week, Drake could drop an album this year and still beat him because Drake's catalog streams are more than Morgan's.

    Well yeah of course Drake will beat him if he releases another album, since that'll be 3 albums in the past year vs Morgan's 1.
    but if Drake doesn't drop another album this year I'm fairly sure Morgan will be #1 this year though, I don't think you're really respecting what he's doing.

    Like I said, even Drake has never done album sales like this in the streaming era. If Morgan doesn't beat him this year he'll beat him next album release

  • Apr 30, 2023
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    mangotflu

    Well yeah of course Drake will beat him if he releases another album, since that'll be 3 albums in the past year vs Morgan's 1.
    but if Drake doesn't drop another album this year I'm fairly sure Morgan will be #1 this year though, I don't think you're really respecting what he's doing.

    Like I said, even Drake has never done album sales like this in the streaming era. If Morgan doesn't beat him this year he'll beat him next album release

    I've spoken extensively about how crazy Morgan's numbers are. He basically has the entire country music population supporting mostly just him. That's why his numbers are that massive. Him also having 30+ tracks per album helps a lot because he only has 3 albums to his name. Morgan Wallen had his breakout year in 2021. Drake's been here dominating the mainstream space since 2009.

    You can't act like he should feel threatened when an artist breaks out and starts seeing huge amounts of success. I remember people doing this with Post Malone from like 2018-2020, acting like Drake should feel threatened by his success or something. Drake is good. He'll always be good. I don't think he views himself as being in competition with anyone because he just does his own thing and dances to his own beat.

  • Apr 30, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    I've spoken extensively about how crazy Morgan's numbers are. He basically has the entire country music population supporting mostly just him. That's why his numbers are that massive. Him also having 30+ tracks per album helps a lot because he only has 3 albums to his name. Morgan Wallen had his breakout year in 2021. Drake's been here dominating the mainstream space since 2009.

    You can't act like he should feel threatened when an artist breaks out and starts seeing huge amounts of success. I remember people doing this with Post Malone from like 2018-2020, acting like Drake should feel threatened by his success or something. Drake is good. He'll always be good. I don't think he views himself as being in competition with anyone because he just does his own thing and dances to his own beat.

    Yeah I don't think he should feel threatened, I feel it's more that rap is dying & that's making Drake's numbers suffer a bit because he doesn't wanna move into a more mainstream genre, he'll be ok still, just he'll inevitably not be #1 within the next few years

    pop/indie/country have all seen huge revivals like look at Taylor doing 200k album units this week when her last album was 6 months ago, things have changed an incredible amount in the last 2 years

  • Apr 30, 2023
    mangotflu

    Yeah I don't think he should feel threatened, I feel it's more that rap is dying & that's making Drake's numbers suffer a bit because he doesn't wanna move into a more mainstream genre, he'll be ok still, just he'll inevitably not be #1 within the next few years

    pop/indie/country have all seen huge revivals like look at Taylor doing 200k album units this week when her last album was 6 months ago, things have changed an incredible amount in the last 2 years

    I agree.

  • Apr 30, 2023

    Shocked how low the numbers are for Jack. I know this project doesn't have as much pop appeal as the last one, but I didn't think it would weigh this heavily

  • Apr 30, 2023

    Jack has peaked

  • Apr 30, 2023
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    Jack doing 50k for a drop with a couple days notice is decent.

  • Apr 30, 2023

    feel back for Harlow because it seemed like he wanted to show that he matured on this album

  • Apr 30, 2023
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    What the hell is seventeen

  • Apr 30, 2023
    pussy bacon

    What the hell is seventeen

    a korean boy band with 17 femboys.

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    mangotflu

    I get your point but I still think it's a fair comparision, when Scorpion was in its 8th week Views was only 2 years old and wasn't doing more than 10k a week with 20 tracks. Whilst Morgan's 2 year old album is doing 50k still with 30 tracks

    honestly tho I've never understood the album tracks argument. Even when people were s***ting on Drake for this back in 2018 I always felt it's weird cause people aren't gonna listen to an album 2x more just cause there's 2x more tracks

    there's definitely some weird s*** going on with AM because I find it hard to believe that 70-80% of his streams are on there whilst for Taylor it looks more like 30-40%

    AM is basically only used by americans so it makes sense that morgan's numbers are much higher there, while looking pretty average on spotify.
    taylor has a high number on spotify but probably 60% of those numbers are from outside of the states.

    TBH billboard needs to do something about Worgan Mallen's '40 song-album' format the same way they started filtering sales out from BTS stans so they cant mass buy their way to #1 anymore.

    150K sales from 40 songs is not even impressive; thats only ~75K from 20 song which plenty of big names can do/has done before.

    nothing about this dude's numbers are impressive.

  • May 1, 2023
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    kasich

    AM is basically only used by americans so it makes sense that morgan's numbers are much higher there, while looking pretty average on spotify.
    taylor has a high number on spotify but probably 60% of those numbers are from outside of the states.

    TBH billboard needs to do something about Worgan Mallen's '40 song-album' format the same way they started filtering sales out from BTS stans so they cant mass buy their way to #1 anymore.

    150K sales from 40 songs is not even impressive; thats only ~75K from 20 song which plenty of big names can do/has done before.

    nothing about this dude's numbers are impressive.

    How isnt it impressive? Scorpion did 81.3k streaming units in its 8th week, this is doing 143k. Whilst he also has another 2 year old album doing another 46k streaming units. In Scorpion's 8th week Drake didn't have anything else doing over 11k units. and I think Scorpion's numbers were incredibly insanely impressive still

    Scorpion 25 tracks = 3.2k units/track
    Morgan's album 36 tracks = 3.9k units/track

    more tracks doesn't equal more streams like that either imo there's definitely diminishing returns past around 18-20 tracks since most fans will just have the album on replay regardless

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    its so obvious which albums have label backing and dollars and which albums don't.

  • May 1, 2023
    A Mad Ass Nigga

    Jack doing 50k for a drop with a couple days notice is decent.

  • May 1, 2023
    pussy bacon

    What the hell is seventeen

    The biggest active KPop group

  • May 1, 2023
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    2 Mexican songs in the top 5. Authentic hits, no payola.

  • May 1, 2023
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    KayTray
    https://twitter.com/rapalert6/status/1653106588893233154

    2 Mexican songs in the top 5. Authentic hits, no payola.

    Hip Hop officially coked

  • May 1, 2023
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    quadra

    Hip Hop officially coked

    Streets is done.

  • May 2, 2023

    Billboard 200 top 10 this week:

  • May 2, 2023
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    mangotflu

    How isnt it impressive? Scorpion did 81.3k streaming units in its 8th week, this is doing 143k. Whilst he also has another 2 year old album doing another 46k streaming units. In Scorpion's 8th week Drake didn't have anything else doing over 11k units. and I think Scorpion's numbers were incredibly insanely impressive still

    Scorpion 25 tracks = 3.2k units/track
    Morgan's album 36 tracks = 3.9k units/track

    more tracks doesn't equal more streams like that either imo there's definitely diminishing returns past around 18-20 tracks since most fans will just have the album on replay regardless

    when you compare the actual streams per track (like you did with your second paragraph), it's already shown Morgan's numbers isnt much higher than 'Scorpion' anyway, and when you consider other factors:

    1. 'Scorpion' already had at least 3 huge pre-released singles months prior to it coming out

    2. Morgan is benefitting from having a small discography. his fans doesnt have to shuffle between multiple albums (yet). by the time he has 6-10 albums, he wouldnt be staying this consistent, months after its release like we are seeing now.

    3. As impressive as "150k in its 8th weeks / 46k sales after 2 years" sounds, all that is - is the work of the same group of people hitting their Morgan Wallen Playlist on AM while going through their days. that is very different than, for example, when taylor or adele selling 200K CDs in their 10th week back in the days. they did it with hundreds of thousands of different individuals purchasing every single week, not with the same country base hitting the 'play' button.

    for this reason, i could hardly be impressed by morgan's chart runs. theyre not nearly as amazing as it looked.

  • May 2, 2023
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    kasich

    when you compare the actual streams per track (like you did with your second paragraph), it's already shown Morgan's numbers isnt much higher than 'Scorpion' anyway, and when you consider other factors:

    1. 'Scorpion' already had at least 3 huge pre-released singles months prior to it coming out

    2. Morgan is benefitting from having a small discography. his fans doesnt have to shuffle between multiple albums (yet). by the time he has 6-10 albums, he wouldnt be staying this consistent, months after its release like we are seeing now.

    3. As impressive as "150k in its 8th weeks / 46k sales after 2 years" sounds, all that is - is the work of the same group of people hitting their Morgan Wallen Playlist on AM while going through their days. that is very different than, for example, when taylor or adele selling 200K CDs in their 10th week back in the days. they did it with hundreds of thousands of different individuals purchasing every single week, not with the same country base hitting the 'play' button.

    for this reason, i could hardly be impressed by morgan's chart runs. theyre not nearly as amazing as it looked.

    1. So did Morgan

    2. Maybe but no other new artist has seen numbers even close to this. Even Post Malone didn't come anywhere near close.

    3. I dunno what you mean by country base, country isn't some popular genre, it's fairly dead outside of Morgan. It's 200k album units, I don't think you're respecting that, that's like 6 million people listening to 50 songs each a week. That's insane.

    I just looked and Scorpion did 5.5m in its first 2.5 years, Morgan's 2021 album has done 6.3m. How the hell are you not impressed by that... and this new album looks set to do even more than that. this s*** is unprecedented in the US in the streaming era.

    the closest new artist is probably Post with BB&B which "only" did 4.2m with BB&B in its first 2.5 years and that was his 2nd album and I think the biggest of his career

    Taylor has a whole catalog and is pulling out every desperaton tactic in the book and I doubt she'll even do more units than him this year unless she drops another album. crazy times

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