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  • Apr 6, 2020
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    Stardust

    There's no mention of originality in the definition of artist

    But it counts for a lot my brotha

  • Apr 6, 2020
    SlimeeDice

    Playing an instrument is a factor in determining an “artist”

    Since y’all are using the term “artist” to separate him from other rappers.

    He’s not in the discussion with artist who can actually play instruments and sang /created music out of their own skills and talents at the most elite level

    Nothin to do with race but if you’re insecure with your race, you gotta work on that within yourself big dog

    you don't have to play an instrument to be a great artist that's the most ignorant distinction i've heard today lmao

  • Apr 6, 2020
    SlimeeDice

    “Artist”

    Entails more than just rapping and beat making

    Song writing, instrumentation, originality, and vocal ability are all things that go into this pot

    Kanye is not doing any of these things on an elite level.

    He’s usin others talent to make elite music.. I can’t qualify that as GOAT artist of all time.

    Real GOAT is all original at the very least

    Fam bob dylan is great artist and can’t sing for s***

    Kanye’s songwriting is on an elite level, most of dark fantasy, dropout, late registration is beautifully written and original. So he meets your criteria and probably more. S*** even Michael Jackson arguably the greatest pop vocalist of all time said he likes Kanye’s auto tune.

    How could you say Kanye’s not original when his first album is a rap album about dropping out of college. Who does that?

  • Apr 6, 2020
    Stardust

    Btw saying you can't be a goat artist because of samples is highkey disrespecting hip hop as a genre

    Real s***

    These new kids needa learn about hip-hops roots

    Sampling is to hip hop basically like what a guitar is to rock n roll

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    Never thought i'd say it or see that day but Hov is without a doubt the unanimous king of Hip-Hop. Always thought Nas was better on a technical level but it's like comparing apples and oranges. Hov's discography & rhymes speak for themselves. HE IS THE G.O.A.T. If Pac or Biggie were MJ, Hov is Bron

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    @yeSAC get him out of here

  • HBDUSA 🇺🇸
    Apr 6, 2020


    Y'all really spending energy arguin with this dude rn

  • Apr 6, 2020
    Mac Foley

    Never thought i'd say it or see that day but Hov is without a doubt the unanimous king of Hip-Hop. Always thought Nas was better on a technical level but it's like comparing apples and oranges. Hov's discography & rhymes speak for themselves. HE IS THE G.O.A.T. If Pac or Biggie were MJ, Hov is Bron

    Hov can’t play instruments.

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    Yo Kanye knows how to draw, paint, and create music. He’s an artist in every sense of the word. This Doug avi nigga is buggin

  • Apr 6, 2020
    SlimeeDice

    Playing an instrument is a factor in determining an “artist”

    Since y’all are using the term “artist” to separate him from other rappers.

    He’s not in the discussion with artist who can actually play instruments and sang /created music out of their own skills and talents at the most elite level

    Nothin to do with race but if you’re insecure with your race, you gotta work on that within yourself big dog

    tf are you talking about nigga? insecure in my race?
    I swear ppl like you need to not talk about black culture since you clearly not in it. White publications since the beginning of time have been calling Rap not a real genre since we dont "play" an "instrument".
    You use Fruity Loops or Abelton and come up with something even resembling even MetroBoomin then imagine making something similar to Kanye.
    What makes the MPC/beat machines in general not an instrument?

  • Apr 6, 2020

    Jay is so overrated on this site I swear

  • Apr 6, 2020
    BillyShears

    Yo Kanye knows how to draw, paint, and create music. He’s an artist in every sense of the word. This Doug avi nigga is buggin

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    Why can’t we agree that genius is multifaceted—similar to mathematical genius or kinaesthetic genius?

    The ability to breathe new life and shift the perspective in a record is artistic.

  • Apr 6, 2020
    SlimeeDice

    But it counts for a lot my brotha

    No the f*** it doesnt, at least not the way you think. Being original doesnt boil down to playing instruments and creating melodies from scratch, samples i think are a great example of originality, cause i can guarantee you not many could make a beat like jesus walks, stronger and takeover interpolating the samples he used like that

  • Apr 6, 2020
    the end

    @yeSAC get him out of here

    Did he delete his reply

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    Mac Foley

    As if most "artists" compose, produce, mix, spit etc. 🙄

    His Production is mainly sampled

    Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not

    Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.

    His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else

    His production is sampled.

    He’s not the GOAT artist

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    STUFF

    Sadé is a GOAT and she only sung.

    She also wrote her s***

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    SlimeeDice

    His Production is mainly sampled

    Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not

    Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.

    His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else

    His production is sampled.

    He’s not the GOAT artist

    Who is then?

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    SlimeeDice

    His Production is mainly sampled

    Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not

    Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.

    His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else

    His production is sampled.

    He’s not the GOAT artist

    U keep regurgitating the same arguments after they’ve already been shut down

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    SHAQUILLE

    U keep regurgitating the same arguments after they’ve already been shut down

    They’ve never been shut and they’re the only points that matter

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    STUFF

    Why can’t we agree that genius is multifaceted—similar to mathematical genius or kinaesthetic genius?

    !https://youtu.be/fpcmUECP3Fw

    The ability to breathe new life and shift the perspective in a record is artistic.

    Dilla is probably even a better example than kanye to why using samples takes as much skill, talent, ear and originality as playing any instrument

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    SlimeeDice

    His Production is mainly sampled

    Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not

    Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.

    His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else

    His production is sampled.

    He’s not the GOAT artist

    do you think you just put a sample into Garageband then rap on it? Do you seriously think sampling requires no skill?

  • Apr 6, 2020
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    Mac Foley

    Who is then?

    Michael Jackson is the greatest artist of all time.

  • SlimeeDice

    His Production is mainly sampled

    Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not

    Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.

    His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else

    His production is sampled.

    He’s not the GOAT artist

    I would say that makes him a top tier producer in the literal sense
    Without Kanye's vision none of his music would've been made

  • Apr 6, 2020
    VA7a

    do you think you just put a sample into Garageband then rap on it? Do you seriously think sampling requires no skill?

    nigga thinks kanye just uses a youtube downloader and raps on that s*** lmfao

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