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  • BurgerBoi777

    Business wise it woulda made more sense to see what MOT did to confirm whether this vision was getting ppl invested or if ppl were tuned out before making a big move like this

    This. If it was strictly business it wouldve made more sense to see how MoT performed

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    YANDHI

    In 2008 from a Marvel Studios that had to find distributors. This was pre-Disney. They were an independent studio

    $585M in 2008 is very different ticket tales and value than 2025

    The Winter Soldier made $714M. Is that really that much better than $618M?

  • Himothee

    This

    The money move would’ve been keeping Gunn and Safran and letting them cook. It’s still early days in the reboot and they’ve done a good job

    Firing Gunn and potentially rebooting again makes zero financial sense

    Idk man all reports are saying the focus is gonna be on the big name super heroes going forward aka the money makers

    Gunn and his hipster love for lesser characters that aren’t box office stars probably played a big part in this

  • HaroldsChicken

    You guys keep saying "DCEU changed the audience perception so this is impressive numbers after that"

    Superman was between Toy Story and Lilo and Stich

    the excuse of " well 10 years ago bvs dropped so people have been mixed on dc" is old man. The movie was marketed how it was marketed and it did what it did.

    That doesn't change the reality of the public's perception of the DC brand at that point in time

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    shaleirose

    The Winter Soldier made $714M. Is that really that much better than $618M?

    Yes $100 Million is a lot lmao

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    Iron Man and Cap also ran $50-70M under the budget of Superman

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    10 years before The Batman was Dark Knight Rises it did a billion.

    10 years before into the spiderverse ( less than really ) was amazing spider man 2

    THE MOVIE SIMPLY HAD FAULTS YOU DONT NEED TO MAKE EXCUSES OF "well some didnt like the israel palestine allegory" "well Gunn is more left leaning " " People were confused on the timeline"

  • promise you they spent way too much money marketing superman 25 for it to not pass man of steels box office

  • XavierMane

    Yes $100 Million is a lot lmao

    It's not that big of a difference to act like one film was a success and the other was a flop

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    shaleirose

    Man of Steel didn't have a decade's worth of sour reputation of a previous failed franchise to shake off when it released. It released right after the super successful Dark Knight Trilogy

    This is a lazy excuse for a movie not performing.

  • YANDHI

    Iron Man and Cap also ran $50-70M under the budget of Superman

    marketing budget way lower as well

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    HaroldsChicken

    This is a lazy excuse for a movie not performing.

    We've truly lost the plot as a community if $600M+ is not performing

  • IT WAS BETWEEN TOY STORY AND LILO AND STICH

    the word of mouth was GOOD on it no one was like "oh yeah man of steel"

    IT WAS BETWEEN TOY STORY AND LILO AND STICH

  • HaroldsChicken

    This is a lazy excuse for a movie not performing.

    if all else fails blame snyder

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    HaroldsChicken

    10 years before The Batman was Dark Knight Rises it did a billion.

    10 years before into the spiderverse ( less than really ) was amazing spider man 2

    THE MOVIE SIMPLY HAD FAULTS YOU DONT NEED TO MAKE EXCUSES OF "well some didnt like the israel palestine allegory" "well Gunn is more left leaning " " People were confused on the timeline"

    Superman was never going to come remotely close to a billion , it never has

  • shaleirose

    We've truly lost the plot as a community if $600M+ is not performing

    BROTHER ITS NOT A HUGELY MARKETABLE MOVIE TO KIDS A FALAFEL MAN IS EXECUTED AND THE MOVIE ENDS IN HIM BEING CALLED A B****

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    BlueDream

    Superman was never going to come remotely close to a billion , it never has

    BVS 125 mil away from a billi bro

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    BlueDream

    Superman was never going to come remotely close to a billion , it never has

    These guys are forgetting the last successful Superman movie released in 1981

  • shaleirose

    These guys are forgetting the last successful Superman movie released in 1981

    cope

  • how is BVS not a superman movie hahaha

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    BurgerBoi777

    Idk man all reports are saying the focus is gonna be on the big name super heroes going forward aka the money makers

    Gunn and his hipster love for lesser characters that aren’t box office stars probably played a big part in this

    Weren’t Peacemaker and the animated DCU shows were doing pretty well on streaming tho?

    Hell mainstream audiences didn’t give af about Guardians until Gunn put em on the map.

    Focusing on the big names is what the last DC universe did and that didn’t work. At least with Gunn we’re getting more than one Superman movie

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    PUFF SHENRON

    BVS 125 mil away from a billi bro

    That movie has Batman and Wonder Woman in it. The literal big 3

    Of course it did that well

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    PUFF SHENRON

    BVS 125 mil away from a billi bro

    A Batman vs. Superman film not making a billion dollars is a bigger failure than Superman (2025) making $618M

  • shaleirose

    A Batman vs. Superman film not making a billion dollars is a bigger failure than Superman (2025) making $618M

    hahahaha