you cant just change to gain morals cause gunn is fired as dc studio head. Especially when he is still directing movies for ellison

the "I hate ellsion he a nazi who betrayed gunn"

yall didnt care when the merger completed and were like "MORE MOVIES IN THEATERS GOOD I DIDNT WANT DC MOVIES ON NETFLIX"

YOU CHEERED FOR THIS MOMENTS AGO

as many of us told you EXACTLY THIS WOULD HAPPEN

that James Gunn would have less creative freedom, have to deliver a plan and would leave the company

nigga watch me

I am saying he is saying even his past movies could be talked about in church or win over grandmas to some degree. Will he possibly turn it up some ? yes but he knows there is a limit of inserting that to success.

If he was so evil and incompetent why would James Gunn make another project under ellison and him?

Intheworks Man

Superman is not in the same tier as Batman and Spider-Man

as a character itself ? yes he is

as products of tvs film

smallville
superman animated series
superman original movies

up there rest kind of dogshit.

but spiderman and batman also have misses.

Its more the highs of the others are more recent than the highs of superman

merch wise , tattoos , comics yes he has weight

Nigga said tattoos come on man

yall are retconning man of steel a bit to be less successful or impactful than it was. yes it had faults . many of them but man of steel was still a moment man

I am saying in regards to cultural capital yes many people are diehard superman fans, you will see shirts, tattoos bumper stickers

that is your target demographic that will see a superman movie regardless

Man of steel cast was stacked like what are we doing here

He’s arguably bigger than both. Before 2020 at least (because a lack of solid media representation has to catch up with him at some point) he’s probably the first superhero you think of when you hear the word “superhero” lol

Clearly not when there are still zero Superman films that grossed $700M+

Man of Steel rotten tomatoes is 57%
Supergirl is 52%

you cant look me in the eyes with a straight face and tell me that paints an accurate picture in comparison of quality.

No he is not, what year are y'all living in man?

The two most popular superheroes in the world in the past 25 years have been Batman and Spider-Man, everyone else is far below them

Amy Adams is washed, don’t look up her recent movies

Because the movies have all sucked relatively to Dark Knight/the overall residue from 90’s Batman (not trying to compare Returns or MOS to some s*** like Batman and Robin just saying they haven’t had a smash hit for Superman after the 70’s) and Spider-Man 2002

Has nothing to do with the actual character and if anything its a testament to how he’s solidified as that tier of character

DCAU did it best.

Gunn replaced the s***appeal and edge from prior DC with supes on the spectrum and thought it’d be a hit

I had many faults with man of steel I do but its not a terrible movie by any means.

How much of this type s*** will i have to post

Seeing superman lose that much and need help didnt play to his advantage.

nor did ending the movie having supermans own family call him a b**** because some of the audience started calling superman a b**** too

IN

im huge snyderverse fan but u not gonna tell me cavill supes not more autistic then corenswet lol

This is iconography, not popularity

Batman and Spider-Man have had countless films, shows, games, and comic runs that were massively popular in the 21st Century. What has Superman had since 2000? Smallville?