OPMay 17, 2020And I'd guarantee there are links between poverty and violent crime
May 17, 2020
NexizimasIm ONLY talking about punishment
NOT about proving if somebody is guilty or not
You're adding another variable that we are excluding
It's an irrelevant comment that essentially says nothing then... How do we determine who to punish? That's why I made my initial comment.
May 17, 2020·1 reply
EMYOh s*** haven’t seen u since KTT1
sup
i talk to your bro on discord a lot lol
- May 17, 2020·2 repliesbigmancam
sup
i talk to your bro on discord a lot lol
Yeah he told me
I was wondering why you weren’t on KTT2 but here you are, classic avy and all 
May 17, 2020·1 replyEMYYeah he told me
I was wondering why you weren’t on KTT2 but here you are, classic avy and all Who’s your brother
May 17, 2020·1 replySynopsis· editedI know this sort of thing is really controversial to some people because they've been fearmongered into believing this form of legalized slavery is the only thing preventing rapist/murderers from roaming the streets, but the idea of locking people in literal cages and having them perform slave labor and live in inhumane conditions is such a ridiculous concept. There's no reason we can't get rid of all jails, move to a strictly rehabilitation centered approach and create a more humane society.
that's also of course without even getting into the racial element of jail/prison and legalized slave labor.
edit: also this is where near all crim justice reforms fall short. they p much entirely ignore "violent offender"
EDIT: Get rid of rehab centers too. All incarceration methods are illegitimate
will put them in your house where you live mf
- May 17, 2020Puma
Who’s your brother
He’s not on KTT
but he knows about it because of me - OPMay 17, 2020·1 replySousa2626
will put them in your house where you live mf
Explain how that makes sense
- May 17, 2020·1 replySynopsis
Explain how that makes sense
it does will have a guy who likes to rape you with you in your bed then afterwords you will change your mind
- OPMay 17, 2020·1 replySousa2626
it does will have a guy who likes to rape you with you in your bed then afterwords you will change your mind
Take your dumbass elsewhere
- May 17, 2020Synopsis
Take your dumbass elsewhere
want smoke mf? 
May 17, 2020·1 replySynopsis· editedI know this sort of thing is really controversial to some people because they've been fearmongered into believing this form of legalized slavery is the only thing preventing rapist/murderers from roaming the streets, but the idea of locking people in literal cages and having them perform slave labor and live in inhumane conditions is such a ridiculous concept. There's no reason we can't get rid of all jails, move to a strictly rehabilitation centered approach and create a more humane society.
that's also of course without even getting into the racial element of jail/prison and legalized slave labor.
edit: also this is where near all crim justice reforms fall short. they p much entirely ignore "violent offender"
EDIT: Get rid of rehab centers too. All incarceration methods are illegitimate
I mean this is is literally what they have in scandinavia right?
I believe highest jail sentence in norway is 20 yrs
They actually try to heal you
- May 17, 2020
dude been arguing in this thread for 48hrs straight
please get a hobby or go outside and take a walk synop
- OPMay 17, 2020·1 replyOlivear
I mean this is is literally what they have in scandinavia right?
I believe highest jail sentence in norway is 20 yrs
They actually try to heal you
No I'm pretty sure they haven't abolished prisons
- May 17, 2020·1 replySynopsis
No I'm pretty sure they haven't abolished prisons
U said u want a switch from prisons to rehabilitation centers right?
That’s what they have and they’re really nice and not s***holes either
TVs, able to get qualifications etc and they try to rehabilitate
- OPMay 17, 2020·1 replyOlivear
U said u want a switch from prisons to rehabilitation centers right?
That’s what they have and they’re really nice and not s***holes either
TVs, able to get qualifications etc and they try to rehabilitate
Yes but what are they putting ppl in there for
- May 17, 2020·1 replySynopsis
Yes but what are they putting ppl in there for
You want it to be voluntary?
- May 17, 2020·1 replyEMY
Yeah he told me
I was wondering why you weren’t on KTT2 but here you are, classic avy and all i dont leave sports sxn basically lol so that's prob why you havent seen me
- OPMay 17, 2020·1 replyOlivear
You want it to be voluntary?
No I mean there's a list of things I'd legalize mostly d*** related
- May 17, 2020bigmancam
i dont leave sports sxn basically lol so that's prob why you havent seen me
Ah that explains a lot
- May 17, 2020·1 replySynopsis
No I mean there's a list of things I'd legalize mostly d*** related
Im confused
I agree w that. Im for full legalization/decriminalization as well
But im talking about the institution
I said in norway most you can get is 20yrs, they’re jails are comfortable and inmates are given skill And education opportunities, leisure and people whove done truly horrible things are rehabilitated, like professionally with social workers and counseling, this is shown thru their recidivism rate
Wht in this system do u disagree with?
D*** policy? Im pretty sure safe injection sites and full decriminalization was acheived in these countries years ago?
- OPMay 17, 2020·1 replyOlivear
Im confused
I agree w that. Im for full legalization/decriminalization as well
But im talking about the institution
I said in norway most you can get is 20yrs, they’re jails are comfortable and inmates are given skill And education opportunities, leisure and people whove done truly horrible things are rehabilitated, like professionally with social workers and counseling, this is shown thru their recidivism rate
Wht in this system do u disagree with?
D*** policy? Im pretty sure safe injection sites and full decriminalization was acheived in these countries years ago?
like ive said earlier, im not completely aware of how they do things in norway. it could be they do most of what im talking about
im also for a more community centered approach to certain issues.
- May 17, 2020·2 repliesSynopsis
like ive said earlier, im not completely aware of how they do things in norway. it could be they do most of what im talking about
im also for a more community centered approach to certain issues.
Ok got u fam i misread
Community centered like police?
That’s interesting
- OPMay 17, 2020Olivear
Ok got u fam i misread
Community centered like police?
That’s interesting
I just haven't done much research to see what the normal prison in that area is like. I've seen the documentary that focuses on halden which is what most people typically reference but idk if thats the norm
and yes, i'd 100% want to move to community centered policing and even community centered treatment for addicts who want help.
- OPMay 17, 2020Olivear
Ok got u fam i misread
Community centered like police?
That’s interesting
prison-insider.com/countryprofile/prisons-norway2019
Yet, the overuse of solitary confinement is very problematic in Norway, including its use for mentally ill inmates. There are many possibilities in the legal framework to isolate a convicted or remand prisoner: solitary confinement may be a reaction to a breach of the prison rules or as a preventive measure. Norway has also been criticized by international and national NGOs on the extensive use of isolation for pre-trial inmates under the pretext of protecting ongoing investigations. The administration should, according to the NGOs, guarantee the systematic individual assessment of the need for solitary confinement.
like for example, if the things in this paragraph are true there is a lot id change.