Gosh š¹Jan 15Ā·1 replyBigSpudItās not an issue that the concept has been done - how many rap songs have been made using a girl as a metaphor for something else (I Used to Love H.E.R., Homecoming, Gloria, etc.) and itās still good.
What I found boring here was that Cole didnāt do anything novel with the concept - it was too literal. When the track started, I thought thereād be some commentary on the changes in his life from fame to coming up to his childhood or whatever, but instead it was literal stuff like ābaby go back in stomachā and āIām growing shorterā. That is exactly what Nas did on Rewind so itās not as interesting here.
Itās also just boring narratively. Itās not interesting to hear about someone who is born, gets married, has kids and dies. The story on Rewind is like a scene from a mafia movie in reverse and has the twist of the shooting at the start of the track being set up at the end.
Also, Rewind was just a quick throwaway track and more of a fun story than anything. Cole releasing it with a music video to build hype for his album heās been promoting for half a decade is anticlimactic.
I know this is overthinking the whole thing but it just really feels like a boring take on the concept and I donāt understand why he chose this as the first track to release. If it was a random song on the album, whatever. But this should be his best foot forward.
At first I disagreed but after reading through this Itās not an issue that the concept has been done - how many rap songs have been made using a girl as a metaphor for something else (I Used to Love H.E.R., Homecoming, Gloria, etc.) and itās still good.
What I found boring here was that Cole didnāt do anything novel with the concept - it was too literal. When the track started, I thought thereād be some commentary on the changes in his life from fame to coming up to his childhood or whatever, but instead it was literal stuff like ābaby go back in stomachā and āIām growing shorterā. That is exactly what Nas did on Rewind so itās not as interesting here.
Itās also just boring narratively. Itās not interesting to hear about someone who is born, gets married, has kids and dies. The story on Rewind is like a scene from a mafia movie in reverse and has the twist of the shooting at the start of the track being set up at the end.
Also, Rewind was just a quick throwaway track and more of a fun story than anything. Cole releasing it with a music video to build hype for his album heās been promoting for half a decade is anticlimactic.
I know this is overthinking the whole thing but it just really feels like a boring take on the concept and I donāt understand why he chose this as the first track to release. If it was a random song on the album, whatever. But this should be his best foot forward.
- Jan 15Gosh
At first I disagreed but after reading through this Itās not an issue that the concept has been done - how many rap songs have been made using a girl as a metaphor for something else (I Used to Love H.E.R., Homecoming, Gloria, etc.) and itās still good.
What I found boring here was that Cole didnāt do anything novel with the concept - it was too literal. When the track started, I thought thereād be some commentary on the changes in his life from fame to coming up to his childhood or whatever, but instead it was literal stuff like ābaby go back in stomachā and āIām growing shorterā. That is exactly what Nas did on Rewind so itās not as interesting here.
Itās also just boring narratively. Itās not interesting to hear about someone who is born, gets married, has kids and dies. The story on Rewind is like a scene from a mafia movie in reverse and has the twist of the shooting at the start of the track being set up at the end.
Also, Rewind was just a quick throwaway track and more of a fun story than anything. Cole releasing it with a music video to build hype for his album heās been promoting for half a decade is anticlimactic.
I know this is overthinking the whole thing but it just really feels like a boring take on the concept and I donāt understand why he chose this as the first track to release. If it was a random song on the album, whatever. But this should be his best foot forward.
THANK YOU! Finally someone else with sense.
Jan 15cool beat. song went in one ear and out the other. maybe Iām just waiting for the lucki album now.
- Jan 15
SABMAN TURNTnever listened to him tbh, his name sounds like a country artist so i usually avoid songs with him
Dawg what lol
- Jan 15
Also Port Antonio was way better than this track. Neither have any commercial appeal but Port Antonio at least had something to say.
cLOUDs was awful lyrical miracle s*** over an interesting beat.
Hope Cole has more songs like PA on this.
Jan 15
Mr CarterDo we know if Cole produced this?
original beat was made by maneesh for ye / drake. found it in a whole folder of beats maneesh made for the project. then he brought in Dzl to do the drums and more co prod
Jan 15Ā·1 replySABMAN TURNTnever listened to him tbh, his name sounds like a country artist so i usually avoid songs with him
Sab delete this bullshit man
Valentine š¦¦Jan 15bro typed an essay to me
The Fall-Off 22 days away! Cole we back nigga, they got opinions
Jan 15
movSong is so f***ing boring
Lyrical exercise.
Jan 15Ā·2 repliesCole is technically so impressive man, but something about him just doesnāt hit my soul as it should. I think a part of it is his delivery.
- Gosh š¹Jan 15
My gut just told me Jordan Ward will be on this
Jan 15Ā·4 repliesThaDonCole is technically so impressive man, but something about him just doesnāt hit my soul as it should. I think a part of it is his delivery.
Can you explain why Kendrick hits your soul in a way Cole doesnāt? This question isnāt to stir drama. Very genuine cause I think Kendrick more of a jazz guy Cole more soul Krit more blues
Jan 15BigSpudItās not an issue that the concept has been done - how many rap songs have been made using a girl as a metaphor for something else (I Used to Love H.E.R., Homecoming, Gloria, etc.) and itās still good.
What I found boring here was that Cole didnāt do anything novel with the concept - it was too literal. When the track started, I thought thereād be some commentary on the changes in his life from fame to coming up to his childhood or whatever, but instead it was literal stuff like ābaby go back in stomachā and āIām growing shorterā. That is exactly what Nas did on Rewind so itās not as interesting here.
Itās also just boring narratively. Itās not interesting to hear about someone who is born, gets married, has kids and dies. The story on Rewind is like a scene from a mafia movie in reverse and has the twist of the shooting at the start of the track being set up at the end.
Also, Rewind was just a quick throwaway track and more of a fun story than anything. Cole releasing it with a music video to build hype for his album heās been promoting for half a decade is anticlimactic.
I know this is overthinking the whole thing but it just really feels like a boring take on the concept and I donāt understand why he chose this as the first track to release. If it was a random song on the album, whatever. But this should be his best foot forward.
I actually see where you coming from cus Itās not an issue that the concept has been done - how many rap songs have been made using a girl as a metaphor for something else (I Used to Love H.E.R., Homecoming, Gloria, etc.) and itās still good.
What I found boring here was that Cole didnāt do anything novel with the concept - it was too literal. When the track started, I thought thereād be some commentary on the changes in his life from fame to coming up to his childhood or whatever, but instead it was literal stuff like ābaby go back in stomachā and āIām growing shorterā. That is exactly what Nas did on Rewind so itās not as interesting here.
Itās also just boring narratively. Itās not interesting to hear about someone who is born, gets married, has kids and dies. The story on Rewind is like a scene from a mafia movie in reverse and has the twist of the shooting at the start of the track being set up at the end.
Also, Rewind was just a quick throwaway track and more of a fun story than anything. Cole releasing it with a music video to build hype for his album heās been promoting for half a decade is anticlimactic.
I know this is overthinking the whole thing but it just really feels like a boring take on the concept and I donāt understand why he chose this as the first track to release. If it was a random song on the album, whatever. But this should be his best foot forward.
- Jan 15Alexandrian
Can you explain why Kendrick hits your soul in a way Cole doesnāt? This question isnāt to stir drama. Very genuine cause I think Kendrick more of a jazz guy Cole more soul Krit more blues
All ass
- Jan 15Ā·1 replyAlexandrian
Can you explain why Kendrick hits your soul in a way Cole doesnāt? This question isnāt to stir drama. Very genuine cause I think Kendrick more of a jazz guy Cole more soul Krit more blues
Probably cause Kendrick doesn't rap like he's reading from a notebook
- Jan 15LickMyBalls
Probably cause Kendrick doesn't rap like he's reading from a notebook
Can't read when it's three niggas in one room, first time I was tossed
Jan 15Ā·1 replyAlexandrianCan you explain why Kendrick hits your soul in a way Cole doesnāt? This question isnāt to stir drama. Very genuine cause I think Kendrick more of a jazz guy Cole more soul Krit more blues
This might be a strange answer but for me its because Cole doesn't seem to have any malice/anger in him.
I tend to gravitate more towards rappers that will put a bit more of that emotion on the mic and Cole doesn't seem to be capable of that. Kendrick I can feel it through his delivery even on some of the less agressive tracks he releases.
That being said, I feel like a lot of people do like Cole and find it easier to relate to him specifically because he seems like a chill guy on the mic.
- Jan 15Ā·1 replyAlexandrian
Can you explain why Kendrick hits your soul in a way Cole doesnāt? This question isnāt to stir drama. Very genuine cause I think Kendrick more of a jazz guy Cole more soul Krit more blues
No offense taken. Funny you say Krit I loved him back in the day (still do).
I hope what Iām saying makes sense, but with Cole I feel like heās talking AT me. With Kendrick I feel like he is talking about his life/topics but not lecturing me. Heās just talking from his perspective. Cole feels more like a lecture.
There are definitely exceptions, like Neighbors which he obviously killed. But as a general matter this is the difference IMO
- Jan 15ThaDon
No offense taken. Funny you say Krit I loved him back in the day (still do).
I hope what Iām saying makes sense, but with Cole I feel like heās talking AT me. With Kendrick I feel like he is talking about his life/topics but not lecturing me. Heās just talking from his perspective. Cole feels more like a lecture.
There are definitely exceptions, like Neighbors which he obviously killed. But as a general matter this is the difference IMO
Itās interesting you say this because I think Cole talking at me gives me a soulful connection.
I think both do lectures and talks at me but I see what you mean.
- Jan 15redtruth
This might be a strange answer but for me its because Cole doesn't seem to have any malice/anger in him.
I tend to gravitate more towards rappers that will put a bit more of that emotion on the mic and Cole doesn't seem to be capable of that. Kendrick I can feel it through his delivery even on some of the less agressive tracks he releases.
That being said, I feel like a lot of people do like Cole and find it easier to relate to him specifically because he seems like a chill guy on the mic.
Fair
- SABMAN TURNT š§š»Jan 15Ā·2 repliesNoFace
Sab delete this bullshit man
IM NOT WRONG
you read the name āKenny Masonā with no other context, safe to assume thatās probably a country music star
- Jan 15
Kendrick just has a much more interesting delivery than Cole. Even on his lyrically dense tracks, heāll find ways to phrase things or use voice inflections that keep your interest, unlike Cole who seems content to use the same monotone flow and rhyme scheme for an entire track.
Real is a Kendrick track that I find quite boring for this reason - his verses are dull and the song feels like a slog. Neighbours is a Cole where the flow switches up a lot and it makes for a good listen.
Jan 15Ā·editedĀ·2 repliesBigSpudItās not an issue that the concept has been done - how many rap songs have been made using a girl as a metaphor for something else (I Used to Love H.E.R., Homecoming, Gloria, etc.) and itās still good.
What I found boring here was that Cole didnāt do anything novel with the concept - it was too literal. When the track started, I thought thereād be some commentary on the changes in his life from fame to coming up to his childhood or whatever, but instead it was literal stuff like ābaby go back in stomachā and āIām growing shorterā. That is exactly what Nas did on Rewind so itās not as interesting here.
Itās also just boring narratively. Itās not interesting to hear about someone who is born, gets married, has kids and dies. The story on Rewind is like a scene from a mafia movie in reverse and has the twist of the shooting at the start of the track being set up at the end.
Also, Rewind was just a quick throwaway track and more of a fun story than anything. Cole releasing it with a music video to build hype for his album heās been promoting for half a decade is anticlimactic.
I know this is overthinking the whole thing but it just really feels like a boring take on the concept and I donāt understand why he chose this as the first track to release. If it was a random song on the album, whatever. But this should be his best foot forward.
What I found boring here was that Cole didnāt do anything novel with the concept - it was too literal. When the track started, I thought thereād be some commentary on the changes in his life from fame to coming up to his childhood
While I see ur point about it being literal, I do think he uses his events in his life to paint the picture of the cycle hes referring to with the concept for the Fall Off, the rise and fall of an artist especially as it pertains to his life
The inspiration was rare and in spurts, but when it's there, I'm immersed
Dealing with writer's block as you age as an artist
With each day that passes, I could feel my career comin' first
Putting his career before his family
And though I'm blessed, I see me stressin' from hearin' the chirps
Of naysayers who, only days later, I don't care to convertDealing with the criticism that comes with being an artist
Decade later, momma cut on the cable
My motivation to be greater ends the moment I peer in her purseFinding the motivation to be an artist seeing first hand his mom addiction
I watch my father walk back in my life and it clears up the hurt
Just a creative way to describe his father leaving and the impact it left on him and his mom
Jan 15J Cole stole his entire gimmick from Dee-1
Jan 15Oblivion XĀ· editedWhat I found boring here was that Cole didnāt do anything novel with the concept - it was too literal. When the track started, I thought thereād be some commentary on the changes in his life from fame to coming up to his childhood
While I see ur point about it being literal, I do think he uses his events in his life to paint the picture of the cycle hes referring to with the concept for the Fall Off, the rise and fall of an artist especially as it pertains to his life
The inspiration was rare and in spurts, but when it's there, I'm immersed
Dealing with writer's block as you age as an artist
With each day that passes, I could feel my career comin' first
Putting his career before his family
And though I'm blessed, I see me stressin' from hearin' the chirps
Of naysayers who, only days later, I don't care to convertDealing with the criticism that comes with being an artist
Decade later, momma cut on the cable
My motivation to be greater ends the moment I peer in her purseFinding the motivation to be an artist seeing first hand his mom addiction
I watch my father walk back in my life and it clears up the hurt
Just a creative way to describe his father leaving and the impact it left on him and his mom
