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  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Shammy

    Bro how old are u lmao

    25

  • Sep 26, 2022
    plants

    But I don't think I've ever met a straight man that doesn't get p****/female attention that is also happy with life

    youve met f***ing hundreds theyre just not whining about it like f***ing b****es bruh jfc

  • Sep 26, 2022
    Jbreezyondeck

    Jesus nigga shut up

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Simulacra

    25

    Damn

    Breh self esteem comes from many sources including but not limited to social support. For example an artists self esteem might be entirely based on the quality of their work and have little to do with social acceptance (assuming their assessment of quality is mostly independent of the opinions of others)

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Shammy

    Damn

    Breh self esteem comes from many sources including but not limited to social support. For example an artists self esteem might be entirely based on the quality of their work and have little to do with social acceptance (assuming their assessment of quality is mostly independent of the opinions of others)

    I already mentioned this but no human being is above the need for social validation especially in younger years. It's how our brains work

    The only people disregarding it's importance are the ones who already got it and don't have to think about it any further

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    I already mentioned this but no human being is above the need for social validation especially in younger years. It's how our brains work

    The only people disregarding it's importance are the ones who already got it and don't have to think about it any further

    Sure but that doesn’t mean it defines you

  • Sep 26, 2022
    Jonboi

    People ITT being reductive af to score easy points.

    Most songs, movies, art, throughout human history have been about sex. It’s sold to us as an essential part of the human experience and we’re shamed if we don’t get it. It’s perfectly normal and reasonable to be depressed if you don’t have any luck with the opposite sex. Sure, an enlightened man will see the pitfall of seeking pleasure and validation. But expecting or pretending like most people are in that mindset from the jump is an unempathetic way to act superior to someone else.

    This makes sense

    Imagine not being enlightened tho

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Simulacra

    Yes. Life as a man doesn't start until women want you

    women wanted me and i accomplished a lot before i ever had sex, i wouldnt say i didnt have confidence either just lacked social skills lmao

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Smoofer

    Sure but that doesn’t mean it defines you

    It has an effect. A guy who has dated girls or at least had girls with crushes on him in his teen years will always have more positive mental health than a guy who has gotten nothing until he was 21

  • Sep 26, 2022
    Simulacra

    It has an effect. A guy who has dated girls or at least had girls with crushes on him in his teen years will always have more positive mental health than a guy who has gotten nothing until he was 21

    Ur tripping

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Simulacra

    I already mentioned this but no human being is above the need for social validation especially in younger years. It's how our brains work

    The only people disregarding it's importance are the ones who already got it and don't have to think about it any further

    This is simply not true tho

    While it is rare there are people who are biologically predisposed to not giving a f*** (sociopaths)

    Also you can train yourself to not care about what others think. It's called stoicism

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    worldpeace

    women wanted me and i accomplished a lot before i ever had sex, i wouldnt say i didnt have confidence either just lacked social skills lmao

    Women wanted you so congrats you fall in the normal category even if you didn't have s**

  • Sep 26, 2022
    Simulacra

    Women wanted you so congrats you fall in the normal category even if you didn't have s**

  • plants 🌻
    Sep 26, 2022

    TIL social validation is 100% s**

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    op and am i ugly guy have to be troling

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Simulacra

    Women wanted you so congrats you fall in the normal category even if you didn't have s**

    Breh slow down a bit lol

    P**** is mad overrated b. Like you'll eventually have s***and realize wow I was bent outta shape for no f***ing reason

    An s***is like anything it's a skill basically. So if ur trash at it the experience will b trash. Basically I'm jus tryna say it's not that big of a deal

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Shammy

    This is simply not true tho

    While it is rare there are people who are biologically predisposed to not giving a f*** (sociopaths)

    Also you can train yourself to not care about what others think. It's called stoicism

    Chances are anyone into stoicism is an adult and has already gone thru the developmental events that create their mental health. And even that is a retroactive cope to make up for what you missed out on in your youth

    Normal guys who got girls in their youth don't need to adopt stoicism to cope with the fact that no one wants them

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Noir

    I didn't say that, in fact I said the opposite: someone who is a virgin would quite understandably overestimate the importance of having s***because they're treating it as a barometer of value and masculinity rather than a means to human connection

    But for someone who knows what s***is like and has some life experience, I expect a more nuanced position. Truthfully, it's not the s***but the validation that people really want. In that sense, s***can be substituted rather effectively by any number of ego fulfilling activities as a means to happiness for many people.

    I had a 6 month dry spell last year and am in a 3 month dry spell now and those were some of the most important periods of growth I've ever experienced. I'm about as happy with myself as I've ever been. S***had nothing to do with it, but the connections I was making and the progress I made were extremely important.

    I was responding to the general sentiment of the thread, not anyone specifically.

    I basically agree with everything you’re saying, especially as it relates to men wanting s***as a means of validation.

    I’ll push back a little on the idea that s***can be substituted effectively by any number of ego fulfilling activities tho. I consider myself to be something of a creative genius, and I still crave validation from sex. It’s not something I’m happy about. But it doesn’t go away because I wrote a fire poem. What’s ultimately helped me is realizing that genuinely liking another person is the way to go. Before, I’d want to have s***with people I don’t actually care about, but it’s very difficult to do that while still presenting an honest self and intentions.

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    @op you need a skill

  • Sep 26, 2022

    OP doesn’t even need b****es he need therapy

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    worldpeace

    @op you need a skill

    I'm procrastinating at my video editing job rn

  • Sep 26, 2022
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    Shammy

    Breh slow down a bit lol

    P**** is mad overrated b. Like you'll eventually have s***and realize wow I was bent outta shape for no f***ing reason

    An s***is like anything it's a skill basically. So if ur trash at it the experience will b trash. Basically I'm jus tryna say it's not that big of a deal

    No actually when I had s***I realized that I had been missing out and felt proud of myself for finally becoming a normal guy

  • plants 🌻
    Sep 26, 2022
    Simulacra

    It has an effect. A guy who has dated girls or at least had girls with crushes on him in his teen years will always have more positive mental health than a guy who has gotten nothing until he was 21

    it has an effect forsure

    but are you gonna let those no-pussy years of your life determine the rest of your life? or are you gonna unironically man up, love yourself, go forth and prosper?

    (im using "you" in a way not to mean YOU Simulacra, just the general "you" u kno)

    Like it's not anyones fault that they grew up the way they did but it's their responsibility to take charge of their s*** and move forward. its good to be aware of the things you didn't get, the ways in which you lack, what parts of your character need work, but to only focus on all that you lack? bad focus. focus on a tree or something instead

  • Sep 26, 2022
    Simulacra

    Chances are anyone into stoicism is an adult and has already gone thru the developmental events that create their mental health. And even that is a retroactive cope to make up for what you missed out on in your youth

    Normal guys who got girls in their youth don't need to adopt stoicism to cope with the fact that no one wants them

    Lmao breh it's definitely dudes who were naturally stoic from a young age regardless of whether girls like them

    Not saying it's normal but you keep using these absolutes that aren't accurate.

    If u wanna talk about how to be more self actualized or whatever that'd be a better discussion imo

  • plants 🌻
    Sep 26, 2022
    Simulacra

    I'm procrastinating at my video editing job rn

    s*** we both making money itt

    chad s***

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