plants 🌻Sep 26, 2022·2 replies
NoirOh, OP is a virgin? That explains a lot
Losing your virginity really doesn't matter that much but I get why someone who hasn't lost it would put way too much value on it and s***in general
no hes not a virgin so hes happy he said that earlier
every year before that tho? the darkest depths of misery, hell on earth, a truly horrific experience that every man must suffer
- Sep 26, 2022plants
no hes not a virgin so hes happy he said that earlier
every year before that tho? the darkest depths of misery, hell on earth, a truly horrific experience that every man must suffer
Nm he needs to chill out then haha
Sep 26, 2022·edited·1 replyIt's crazy how we went from fearless hunters and gatherers to spineless dweebs crying on a Kanye forum about not getting p****
Sep 26, 2022·1 replyConfidence at the core of it is delusion so yes
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replyBirdie
Confidence at the core of it is delusion so yes
Cause it’s delusional to have self confidence if u not getting p****?
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replySmoofer
Cause it’s delusional to have self confidence if u not getting p****?
You projected the wrong idea on my post
All confidence is delusion
No one really knows if they can do something or not until they actually do it
Then it’s not confirmed you can do something again
Animals aren’t confident in anything, they do everything by instinct
Self belief is pure speculation and being confident in most instances people talk about is all about being delusional in your ability or characteristics— as it has actual tangible benefits to do so
It’s all the whole basis of “fake it until you make it”
Sep 26, 2022NoirOh, OP is a virgin? That explains a lot
Losing your virginity really doesn't matter that much but I get why someone who hasn't lost it would put way too much value on it and s***in general
Sex/dating advice for men is hard because it's truly one of those things that like....until you been through it, you'll never understand.
So of course, a nigga that gets p**** telling a nigga that don't get p**** aint gonna take heed to the same advice because "lucky you, you get p****"
I used to be like that in college.
But after the nigga that doesn't gets p****, actually gets p**** now all of a sudden all the advice he was told makes sense.
That's why a lot of people that get girls still be depressed lol.
Sep 26, 2022·edited·6 repliesPeople ITT being reductive af to score easy points.
Most songs, movies, art, throughout human history have been about sex. It’s sold to us as an essential part of the human experience and we’re shamed if we don’t get it. It’s perfectly normal and reasonable to be depressed if you don’t have any luck with the opposite sex. Sure, an enlightened man will see the pitfall of seeking pleasure and validation. But expecting or pretending like most people are in that mindset from the jump is an unempathetic way to act superior to someone else.
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replyJonboi· edited
People ITT being reductive af to score easy points.
Most songs, movies, art, throughout human history have been about sex. It’s sold to us as an essential part of the human experience and we’re shamed if we don’t get it. It’s perfectly normal and reasonable to be depressed if you don’t have any luck with the opposite sex. Sure, an enlightened man will see the pitfall of seeking pleasure and validation. But expecting or pretending like most people are in that mindset from the jump is an unempathetic way to act superior to someone else.
No we get that.
What we're saying is that NONE OF THAT gets rid of your depression lol
And one can argue that mentality that has been played throughout human history is exactly why masculinity has been so goddamn toxic
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replyJonboi· edited
People ITT being reductive af to score easy points.
Most songs, movies, art, throughout human history have been about sex. It’s sold to us as an essential part of the human experience and we’re shamed if we don’t get it. It’s perfectly normal and reasonable to be depressed if you don’t have any luck with the opposite sex. Sure, an enlightened man will see the pitfall of seeking pleasure and validation. But expecting or pretending like most people are in that mindset from the jump is an unempathetic way to act superior to someone else.
Some people are genuinely content with jerking off and are on the more asexual side of the spectrum to the point they actually don’t care or put thought into it
- Sep 26, 2022Birdie
Some people are genuinely content with jerking off and are on the more asexual side of the spectrum to the point they actually don’t care or put thought into it
Some people. I’m speaking to the majority.
Sep 26, 2022·1 replyJonboi· editedPeople ITT being reductive af to score easy points.
Most songs, movies, art, throughout human history have been about sex. It’s sold to us as an essential part of the human experience and we’re shamed if we don’t get it. It’s perfectly normal and reasonable to be depressed if you don’t have any luck with the opposite sex. Sure, an enlightened man will see the pitfall of seeking pleasure and validation. But expecting or pretending like most people are in that mindset from the jump is an unempathetic way to act superior to someone else.
A key point to make is has the person made attempts with the opposite s***or do they say they don't approach by them
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replyBirdie
You projected the wrong idea on my post
All confidence is delusion
No one really knows if they can do something or not until they actually do it
Then it’s not confirmed you can do something again
Animals aren’t confident in anything, they do everything by instinct
Self belief is pure speculation and being confident in most instances people talk about is all about being delusional in your ability or characteristics— as it has actual tangible benefits to do so
It’s all the whole basis of “fake it until you make it”
Ok but if you do a task every single day it’s not delusional to feel confident you can do it again lol. Not even talking abt s***but like I’m confident that I can walk down my stairs every day. I don’t think that’s based in delusion at all
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
No we get that.
What we're saying is that NONE OF THAT gets rid of your depression lol
And one can argue that mentality that has been played throughout human history is exactly why masculinity has been so goddamn toxic
It’s a band-aide on a larger wound, I agree. But it can help a person’s confidence.
I’m basically saying a lot of people lack empathy. You have to sort of acknowledge how natural their sadness is, before you tell them how they can evolve. Otherwise people just end up feeling even more lonely and unheard.
- Sep 26, 2022Shallow Deep
A key point to make is has the person made attempts with the opposite s***or do they say they don't approach by them
That’s a separate point, and is often the case, but either way, their sadness is valid.
Sep 26, 2022·1 replyJonboi· editedPeople ITT being reductive af to score easy points.
Most songs, movies, art, throughout human history have been about sex. It’s sold to us as an essential part of the human experience and we’re shamed if we don’t get it. It’s perfectly normal and reasonable to be depressed if you don’t have any luck with the opposite sex. Sure, an enlightened man will see the pitfall of seeking pleasure and validation. But expecting or pretending like most people are in that mindset from the jump is an unempathetic way to act superior to someone else.
Neither the OP of this thread or the other thread are gonna f*** you
Sep 26, 2022No. Everything is p****
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replyplants
no hes not a virgin so hes happy he said that earlier
every year before that tho? the darkest depths of misery, hell on earth, a truly horrific experience that every man must suffer
Yes. Life as a man doesn't start until women want you
- Sep 26, 2022Jonboi
It’s a band-aide on a larger wound, I agree. But it can help a person’s confidence.
I’m basically saying a lot of people lack empathy. You have to sort of acknowledge how natural their sadness is, before you tell them how they can evolve. Otherwise people just end up feeling even more lonely and unheard.
Finally someone willing to engage instead of posturing for cool points
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replyJonboi
People ITT being reductive af to score easy points.
Most songs, movies, art, throughout human history have been about sex. It’s sold to us as an essential part of the human experience and we’re shamed if we don’t get it. It’s perfectly normal and reasonable to be depressed if you don’t have any luck with the opposite sex. Sure, an enlightened man will see the pitfall of seeking pleasure and validation. But expecting or pretending like most people are in that mindset from the jump is an unempathetic way to act superior to someone else.
I didn't say that, in fact I said the opposite: someone who is a virgin would quite understandably overestimate the importance of having s***because they're treating it as a barometer of value and masculinity rather than a means to human connection
But for someone who knows what s***is like and has some life experience, I expect a more nuanced position. Truthfully, it's not the s***but the validation that people really want. In that sense, s***can be substituted rather effectively by any number of ego fulfilling activities as a means to happiness for many people.
I had a 6 month dry spell last year and am in a 3 month dry spell now and those were some of the most important periods of growth I've ever experienced. I'm about as happy with myself as I've ever been. S***had nothing to do with it, but the connections I was making and the progress I made were extremely important.
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replyProsper
Neither the OP of this thread or the other thread are gonna f*** you
There you go, making more assumptions :word:
Sep 26, 2022who told you you could make a thread about me?
- Sep 26, 2022Smoofer
Ok but if you do a task every single day it’s not delusional to feel confident you can do it again lol. Not even talking abt s***but like I’m confident that I can walk down my stairs every day. I don’t think that’s based in delusion at all
You’re using a very simple and far leaning example but It is delusional because you don’t know if you’d trip or break your leg. The delusion lies in thinking you’d achieve the result 100% of the time.
The likelihood doesn’t matter because it’s the principle that you simply don’t know
You can be confident in the likelihood of something but 100% certainty doesn’t really exist in most situations. Behavioral economics has a proven theory of this.
The principle doesn’t change based on the likelihood. It also becomes more and more applicable when we talk about attraction and stuff with much more gray area.
I will concede that confidence in probability of things isn’t delusion and just pure a***ysis. But I’m talking about social situations here primarily that are virtually unquantifiable. My original statement should have been phrased better.
- Sep 26, 2022Jonboi
There you go, making more assumptions :word:
You're tryna hand hold and baby people when they really just need a slap of reality
- Sep 26, 2022·1 replySimulacra
How do you build self esteem? Through positive social reinforcement. You can't recognize your own value if no one else sees it
Bro how old are u lmao