Everyday struggle was the closet thing we had to the 106 n park/Rap City/TRL platforms of the 2000's.

Complex fumbled the bag with that

money really is the root of all evil b

We don't even got MTV news anymore

DJ Akademiks is lame

ES was nice the 1st few months, i def. was checking for it. the moment joe left, it went downhill

This again is cope because even that mid era Kanye and 50 were still huge and Wayne would slide into Carter 3 for an all time run.

The mid 2000s era of Hip Hop was bigger then this current era

Then it's going to go back to being an underground genre. Which could potentially be a good thing

Yall not looking in the right places

I also feel like the pessimsm has reached a breaking point to where its unavoidable. Takeoff died and Young thug might get 25 to life... s*** gettin too real for people

Bro we got DMX and Em right outta the deaths of what was essentially that gen’s Drake in two guys, but three rookies single-handedly stopped the progress of mainstream rap flourishing for the next years to come?

Y’all better hope that s*** ain’t true cause it paints a grim portrait of the state of mainstream rap if it is lmao

who do you listen to?

Yes it was bigger, you're proving my point lol. It's harder these days to even think about having superstars at the level of Kanye and Wayne.

S*** is never happening in today's era.

And still, 2000s was thought of to be a weak era especially after 90s rap

No, it’s just not appreciated NOW but it will be when the tide changes. We’ve seen this with tons of albums we call classics nowadays. My point stands that it is a progressive body of work for the genre instead of the majority of s*** that comes out now

yeah it's unfortunate. that mtv vid for hov/nas beef is just amazing...like they're breaking the s*** down and hearing rap journalists talk about it etc. now it's transitioned to tweets and ig stories/comments...like be real. that s*** is soulless.

Other genres are doing it

I say Ebro this nigga says yall.

Fam I made a thread about a ghais guevara song don't put me into that category

Well that’s pretty much all form of news now. Social Media is your newspaper/TV a lot of the time.

X was already doing 130k first week within a year of mainstream success and Juice WRLD sold 160k first week after about a year in as well. In comparison, Destroy Lonely and Yeat who are the biggest in this new wave can barely crack 30-60k first week after over a year in the spotlight

Destroy Lonely and Yeat are just not that good or engaging yall lmao

Nah the 2000's had a dark period bro. The whole "ringtone era" was considered the death of hip hop too

did you forget about this album? History is repeating itself

Another thing that needs to be factored in is, again, Gen Z born males are the first gen of core hiphop listeners that don’t look at the generation defining crossover mcs as their cool idols to aspire to

They don’t wanna be Drake and Kendrick or even Cole. But you bet your ass Drake and Kendrick and Cole wanted to be Wayne and Hov and whoever else. Pac wanted to be Cube. Em wanted to be Pac. It’s not a coincidence the girlies wanna be like Nicki tho and they’re the newest rappers that are actually making a stamp

It is progressive and a great album, but in terms of this thread, is Kendrick keeping rap at the forefront in any way by dropping every 5 years? I doubt he cares anyway

But to try and shift the blame to someone like Drake who's actively dropping music every year, over a decade into his career is crazy

Artists like that are ones who keep this s*** interesting, not artists like Kendrick and Frank