Bring back albums with concepts (and skits)
All these "playlist" albums are the problem, rappers dropping 20+ track bloated albums hoping a few songs stick
Why is Drake still being mentioned ITT?
Man is the only one that has dropped 4 albums in the past 3 years and he's about to drop another one
Carti and Kendrick take years to drop, and Travis just had to wait out the Astro Fest controversy
Like why are you guys mad at Drake 😂😂
No one who isn't a rap fan can name you a JID song or pick him out a lineup he's a niche artist with a strong fanbase that has zero crossover
Niggas can say the same thing about French Montana and he has major hits so is he not mainstream then? lol
a nigga like Yeat popping off is pretty much the spitting image of this
Yeat is actually one of the more interesting rappers to come out sonically in this new wave. I get the cosplay aspect though lol
What exactly is monoculture? I've heard that term thrown around a lot in these discussions about why superstars aren't happening anymore
It's when an entire culture of people identify with a finite amount of entities as a means to get their entertainment
The entire music business was built off of this premise.
You get your music from outlets such as outlets, video channels, radios etc. it's kind of easy to get an entire faction of people to support something when they can only get their entertainment from those outlets
These days, most people aren't buying music, they aren't listening to the radio, there is no music on television, and we're all on our own social media platform. We're curating our own entertainment experience instead of allowing big media, and labels to do it.
That means then that we can't create new stars because we're all in our bubble listening and consuming our own desired entertainment.
Why is Drake still being mentioned ITT?
Man is the only one that has dropped 4 albums in the past 3 years and he's about to drop another one
Carti and Kendrick take years to drop, and Travis just had to wait out the Astro Fest controversy
Like why are you guys mad at Drake 😂😂
cuz he's cringe and corny and he knows regardless of how s***ty his new music, it'll get clicks on streaming services cuz he prolly has them on payroll
The difference between Pac and Biggie vs XXX and Juice is they were the biggest artists but not genre shifting artists. When Drake Cole and Kendrick came out they were shifting the genre towards the lyrical raps and making hits at the same time. The backpack era. Juice and XXX were the same. They were shifting rap to more of that emo, dark, rage s***. You felt the blow to the genre when XXX died and with Juice dying not long after rap again pivoted from that to gangster trap raps.
If Juice and XXX never died among others I think the landscape of modern hip hop would be different. Trippie Redd wasn't enough to shoulder the scene.
Facts. Pop Smoke would have been a valuable star for a fusion of drill gangsta rap and melodic hits (kind of like this gen’s 50) but then he died so there wasn’t anyone left to take the reigns
Yall keep saying this as other genres grow and Hip Hop shrinks
We had a Latin surge in the 2000s too with artists like Daddy Yankee and s***. That was also considered a slump era for rap too ironically. Just seems like history repeating itself
I don't really see it lasting but that's just my opinion personally
I don't mind it though, Bad Bunny and them are cool
NIGGA HNVM WASNT FLESHED OUT AT ALL IT WAS A WEEDPLATE
THE PROD ON THAT ALBUM IS DRY AND SPARSE AS S*** FOR A DANCE ALBUM
HER LOSS HAD EXTREMELY GENERIC PRODUCTION OUTSIDE OF MAYBE 2-3 SONGS
HER LOSS SOUNDED LIKE A DRAKE ALBUM WITH 21 SAVAGE VERSES TACKED ON IT
So it wasn't fleshed out because you didn't like the production? I caught the vibe from every track on there. Jimmy Cooks the only track that took me out of the vibe that album shot for. As far as your feelings about Her Loss I felt like they fed off each others energy perfectly, Drake was a dominating presence but on no track did I feel they didn't complement one another, and again even if you felt like 21's presence was weak that takes nothing from the cohesion of the album nor does that mean it wasn't fleshed out.
White people finding something else to listen to seems great to me
All kinds of white people like race conscious artists like Noname, Jay Electronics, Kendrick, Billy Woods. A majority of their fans even.
Why is Drake still being mentioned ITT?
Man is the only one that has dropped 4 albums in the past 3 years and he's about to drop another one
Carti and Kendrick take years to drop, and Travis just had to wait out the Astro Fest controversy
Like why are you guys mad at Drake 😂😂
it’s saying something that albums that those guys dropped while taking years to drop have progressed the genre more than the guy that drops every year has though
It's when an entire culture of people identify with a finite amount of entities as a means to get their entertainment
The entire music business was built off of this premise.
You get your music from outlets such as outlets, video channels, radios etc. it's kind of easy to get an entire faction of people to support something when they can only get their entertainment from those outlets
These days, most people aren't buying music, they aren't listening to the radio, there is no music on television, and we're all on our own social media platform. We're curating our own entertainment experience instead of allowing big media, and labels to do it.
That means then that we can't create new stars because we're all in our bubble listening and consuming our own desired entertainment.
in that case, bring back the 80's/90's/early 2000's format. let the tv channels bring music videos back, with hosts and s***, and let the radio restore the feeling
i really miss the tv era. when you saw the music videos on tv come and get excited every time they came on.
Facts, and Its not just music videos, all the music related TV shows are gone.


no more MTV Spring break/BET Spring bling performances
No more Music documentaries like Behind the music or MTV Diaries
Last time this happened guess who was popping in the underground
TDE
Odd Future
ASAP Mob
Pro Era
Stay tuned…
i get what you’re saying
but labels weren’t giving up on hip hop in 2011. they were signing tyler, rocky, mac miller, kendrick etc
from a major label perspective, kanye + hov, drake, wayne, j cole, the game etc were releasing commercially successful, well received albums. that’s not mentioning all the underground indie classics that we had in the genre.
we’re in a much worse place than we were in 2011 not just musically, but also with infrastructure at labels, media etc.
it’s saying something that albums that those guys dropped while taking years to drop have progressed the genre more than the guy that drops every year has though
Yes MMBS definitely set off waves through the genre.
Exactly these niggas suck and rap fans have lowered the quality of being rapper so low but are also shocked people outside of the genre don't care it.
It use to be rappers were some of the most electric performers out there a big sell of rappers at one point was the mic presence now it's the opposite.
What pisses me off about todays rapper the most is how the best rapper was always a smart,clever guy,who was always one step ahead of the listener. Now motherfuckers are really dumb,their really ignorant,their fans who somehow became rappers.
Kendrick,Cole and Drake are the last of a dying breed forreal,even though Drake might be drinking his own Kool-Aid too much.
Hip Hop fans have coped themselves into thinking that the state of rap now is the state of music period because to admit that Hip Hop is experiencing issues is to admit the artist they love aren't carrying the genre well.
Yes MMBS definitely set off waves through the genre.
There you go talking about waves when i’m talking about the art.
Hip Hop fans have coped themselves into thinking that the state of rap now is the state of music period because to admit that Hip Hop is experiencing issues is to admit the artist they love aren't carrying the genre well.
There you go talking about waves when i’m talking about the art.
How did it progress the genre?
Yes MMBS definitely set off waves through the genre.
these people just be talking bro
in that case, bring back the 80's/90's/early 2000's format. let the tv channels bring music videos back, with hosts and s***, and let the radio restore the feeling
We really should!
It would help
We desperately need our superstars to be superstars again
But it'd be tough. Sneakily, the industry has tried to do that with several reboots of stuff like this, but no one watches tv anymore and everyone is curating their own experience.