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Nigga in some Get Out coded realm

This is all true but there's also part of reading the room and vibe

If you play out of zone ish you're gonna get boo'ed anywhere

And NYC to out of state artists is known as notoriously aggressive and out spoken that will boo you if they feel like for many decades now - white black spanish and whatever genre

He set his own self up on this one imo - and it wasn't even of his own music from what I've heard, he was just DJing out of crowd ish the entire time while also having terrible audio set ups (a common issue with him) that was supposedly literally hurting people's ears and screwing the mood up causing further agitation

Most artists get their first and sometimes only major boost in NY and LA

You'll be alright overall, it's a right of passage

there’s a shawty he hanging with now that i used to hang out i can assure it’s GET OUT land over there

i’m with u 100%

Lmaooooooooooooooooo

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you cut her off? Lol

i saw him in SF and it was an amazing show not a DJ set tho, he had a live band

Nah I’ve heard some more salacious stuff too, from multiple people

Man this isn’t 1996 we’re not booing Outkast anymore I promise lmao

500 shows in the last 4-5 years and haven’t seen a single act booed

Yves is amazing as an actual artist/band

500 shows

bizarre thing to say about someone who was a big fan of yves tumor and just doesn't like their music anymore. im not a hater lmfao, im frustrated by the direction they went in

not even close but go off

we some showgoers #believedat

I’ve seen yves tumor like three times now they put on a hella good show lol

it's not the fact that it's diatonic by itself, it's that as a result of that all the songwriting tends to sound the same, which is a common problem with contemporary "experimental" music really especially when you transition to a very conventional style it becomes obvious. harmonically conventional music without other cool ideas/production to dress it up=boring ass "diatonic" music which isn't even a proper term and i kind of regret using it in the first place because it's a sloppy way of putting it but gets across what im trying to say. if you took anything off safe in the hands and gave it generic trap production no one would care about these songs. when you transition into a conventional style and don't have anything else like actually great musicianship or inventive or interesting songwriting to fill the void the experimentalism left behind, you get a guy posing as avant garde but making what amounts to again, badly sung light rock. his lyricism is nothing special either for that matter so there's nothing there that can replace that.

another reason that i pointed out how it's diatonic is because in order to do rock/pop soul/emo right in a way that actually makes it interesting you need to experiment in the songwriting department. it wasn't as important when they were making music that was actually interesting and boundary pushing in other ways, because quite a few of those songs are pretty "diatonic" as well, even ones with otherwise crazy awesome production and other ideas. that's not a problem IN AND OF ITSELF, i like plenty of music that stays completely within a given western major or minor scale.

but when you shed all that to do standard radio fare, im assuming you're gonna find a way to make that interesting too. but they don't, not to me anyway, or at least not nearly as interesting as their previous material. it's not the fact that they "sold out", i have no problem with pop music, I loved a lot of songs off bieber's album swag that just dropped. it's the fact that they went from what they were previously making to mostly standard stuff without bringing anything really all that new to that new conversation they entered, basically aside from aesthetically being queer david bowie updated to the 21st century, and for me aesthetics/the intentional juxtaposition of their avant-garde image with mostly standard rock isn't interesting to me. it's the same reason i don't care for a lot of rock out there to begin with: literally all style, no substance.

you find parts of it boring for how sample heavy it is, i find it boring for the reasons stated above. maybe learn how to handle someone else's opinion of something you like without having an angry reflexive reactionary tribalistic insult spasm. but even going off your vehement defense you basically also admit his music is more conventional than it's ever been, so i digress.

it's not that im trying to sound smart, it's that you can't fathom someone having different taste from you and talking about music in different ways from you. didn't take you for such a close minded weirdo but go off. if someone expressing their opinion really "hurts" you maybe you should consider idk going outside and touching grass maybe?

also you mfs keep saying "solid" see my post above for my thoughts on that but idc whether music is "solid" i care whether it's interesting or speaks to me or not

again, calling someone "tryhard" for saying they don't like something is insane stan behavior. "trying too hard to be diff" more like you're too simple to understand there are people out there in this big ol world with completely different tastes from you i guess i attacked your sacred cow or something

This nigga sherm just casually dropped that he went to 500 shows in 5 years. I love this maniac

What’s tea sis