too bad, liking rap doesnt mean you hate people and are down with abusing them. its not the 90s anymore, hating the scientific fact that gay people exist will f*** up your money and business, deal with it.

also, a rapper rapping about their socioeconomic struggles growing up , or writing stories about murder and robbery like any other musician or artist, is not something that should be condemned or shamed. it's a completely natural way of creating meaningful art. comparing that to a homophobic rant is just madness

I mean I know a ton of Black people who aren't homophobic. I've read and learned from many of our greatest Black leaders and minds that have condemned homophobia.

To say that homophobia is apart of Black culture...knowing that gay Black people have created music apart of Black culture that many Black people love and dance to is...well I mean pretty f***ing stupid to put it plainly.

I got a strong take on this from reading some of the responses but I’ll save it for the next thread. Some feelings will be hurt but it’s the truth.

The majority of people are for lil nas. You just said an exception is not the majority but then just did it to act like most black people are gay haters lol

Fr tho lol

I think the biggest problem is people expect these artists to be politically correct and roles models all the time

That's just not always gonna be the case

I wouldn't say the majority lol

I’m saying, they want homophobia and ignorant s*** to be our image so bad. There’s homophobia in every culture but we got niggas on here trying to claim it n s*** not realizing how toxic they sound.

Don't matter what you think

Crazy thing is DaBaby said way more wild s*** up there and this what got him in trouble

The man who killed a man (self defense of course)

Smacked the s*** out of a female fan on camera

Jumped a nigga in the Louis Vuitton store

Just expecting too much out of him lol

Then niggas act like hood niggas are just flat out reetarded and can’t think for themselves. We’ve all did and said stupid s*** but a lot of us grow out of that. Y’all really need to speak to more hood niggas I swear and stop going off these stereotypes.

You can’t be serious lol. You must’ve grew up in the suburbs or in a diverse neighborhood to possibly be fooled into thinking majority of black people are with Nas X

Expecting a dude who made music with gay people to not be homophobic is asking too much?

Say less lol

I grew up in baltimore

Uhh yeah, he did it for a bag, not that he cares for that community

I said I made my point and he still didn’t get it.

But you said I lost the argument but you engaged in an argument anyway. So what exactly is your point here?

Growing up in Libya I did witness a lot of sexism and patriarchal s*** and this is a issue in other Arab nations as well but as a Arab I’ll never say that these things are inherently Arab or define us they are more so problems that our community needs to address.

It's disingenuous to act like everyone talking about this keeps track of hip hop music 24/7 and everyone just collectively agreed that this was somehow the worst thing ever said by anyone ever.

This got huge because of social media. Social media is among the most unpredictable forces in our current media climate. This could have gone away after four minutes or gotten way bigger than it is now.

The initial complaints just happened to hit at the right time and reach people with big audiences that then grew the story exponentially. The reason complaints keep piling on is because more and more people hear about it and they chime in. I promise you there are plenty of people online applying the same morals to the entire spectrum of hip hop, they just don't blow up. This one did, which clouds people's judgements, making them think this was everyone collectively thinking it crossed the line.

It's not like everyone online just collectively decided that Harvey Weinstein (No I'm not comparing him and Dababy morally) was the worst of the worst in Hollywood and had to go. Everyone piled on him because the story grew exponentially in a similar manner. People can only focus on so many things and eventually the collective locks onto something, usually by sheer happenstance.

People don't really care that much about this. Social media is convenient, so people passively posted some comments about it (not surprising - people aren't big on homophobia) and moved on with their day. The thing is that when this passive discouragement starts to group up to hundreds of thousands of comments it comes across like draconian outrage/witch hunt. Companies and celebrities see it the same way and act accordingly.

Trust me, the majority of people complaining aren't hip hop heads, just everyday people hearing the news that a very influential person in pop culture made blatant homophobic remarks.

A million variables have to line up for something like this to happen, this just happens to be the situation where it did. I notice that I repeated myself a lot so sorry for that. Also sorry for this being way too long.

I’d love to stay and argue with five niggas, but I got s*** to do lol. Where’s the mega thread??

In closing, it‘a illogical to expect a whole lot better from a rapper who’s constantly spewing ignorant s***. If you’re outraged or surprised by his actions, and turn a blind eye to the other bad s*** he’s doing, you’re a fraud

That's a cop out

You just exposed yourself as being a dumbass nigga in here who thinks black culture is being ignorant.

It’s essay time in this b****

Just gave you plenty examples of who this dude is

Do you think he's really had discussions with the gay people he's worked with? Do you think they go to the studio together and make music lol

They give him a check, he sends a verse

Again if y'all watch his whole set nigga said a bunch of wild s*** just off top of the head

He pretty much offended everybody

You just assuming these things and presenting them as truths