krishna bound

2y

come on dude. that men increasingly feel alienated and this alienation leads to toxicity which results in radicalism/etc? That men feel like they don't have roles in society or feel socially isolated from friends and partners? That men statistically have less friends, smaller social circles, and make less and live more paltry lives than ever before? That men increasingly have issues with integration in workplace and education? That men are having less kids and increasingly have gaps between family roles, expectations, and reality? What do you want me to do, link you scientific articles on male suicide before you're satisfied?

krishna bound

2y

a lot of the issues involving american men are not particularly gendered per-se, but they aren't typically included in the conversation of whomst such things affect. this doesn't mean they are solely "men's issues", but a lot of times the languages seems exclusionary of men; when it does involve men, it often seems oddly cautionary or condescending. I know it's easy to say "well it should be obvious it includes men", but often it's really not, especially for youth which has no reason to be enchanted with politics to begin with.
It's easy to see about how general economic situations - particularly home buying but also issues with education, income, and job market - are particularly alienating to men when men are still treated with the expectation of being providers and traditional masculine roles. This isn't because these things are limited to men, but when there's infinite history besides expectations of male roles in society (think about pressures from outdated societal views from parents and grandparents), and this is interwoven into a society which increasingly non-gendered in accomplishment and more neutral in terms of things like hiring, etc. it's easy to see how strained economies create a view of abandonment and failure in men.
I think the issue is very often with this conversation people want to then rebutt with gendered issues - like "well bad economies hurt women, and many women are single mothers so it's actually worse..." or something in that sense. I think the problem is no one is disagreeing there; even most of these men. I know online much of the conversation veers towards the toxicity of certain men online as a pivot for why issues are/aren't important, but realistically the problem with many issues is that they aren't gendered but young men aren't clearly being included in the conversations. I think if we want to talk "gendered issues", huge problems may include things related to education, divorce rates (from parents, I mean), etc. - but realistically at the end of the day the inclusion of young men as a demographic explicitly in economic conversation remains a primary problem

Elric

2y

Can't wait till @Snowboy sees this

atthepyramids

2y

i feel like the past 3 days so much has happened between the trump rally having like seven different incidents of bigotry and now that cnn s***

AlephLance

2y

America needs a black woman president. Trump is dangerous and people are so desensitized and docile. The fact that trump even has this much support is embarrassing. this election isn't even about who becomes president, it's become a test for humanity. I'm lowkey about to leave the country if Trump wins, I don't want to be here.

Bo Ceephus

2y

I want a black woman president so bad.

As long as it's not a white woman president.

AlephLance

2y

America needs a black woman president. Trump is dangerous and people are so desensitized and docile. The fact that trump even has this much support is embarrassing. this election isn't even about who becomes president, it's become a test for humanity. I'm lowkey about to leave the country if Trump wins, I don't want to be here.

Bo Ceephus

2y

Unhinged lmao.

He doesn't even like trump and hes caping this hard. Russia checks must be fire.

AlephLance

2y

I'm so anxious

VA7a

2y

what does her being a black woman have to do with Police Accountability, Inflation, Genocide in Palestine, Immigration rights, Codifying Roe V Wade? Her being a black woman shouldnt matter if she doesnt even prioritize our community.

spongebob

2y

Damn. reading thru that men talk is actually cringe like a lot of you want to ignore the problems. this s*** affects everybody (T H U G L I F E acronym)

Yeah we live in a patriarchal society still in a lot of ways but ignoring men’s issues and suffering doesn’t “balance the scales” it’s not “progressive” and just perpetuates a lot of problems that men then reproduce out in society that women are also thereby exposed to

Ignoring men’s issues also hurts women too it’s not that difficult to piece together.

You’re not progressive or radical for saying “fuck men” or just brushing the problems to the side just because men in society historically occupied certain powerful positions and dynamics yes that can be criticized, is problematic and we can have the roe v wade discussion too and how it’s ridiculous that rights can undemocratically be taken away like that, it should be discussed but today is a lot different than yesterday and we have to acknowledge the state of men in the current moment. it’s just going to lead to more resentment and an increasingly toxic society to neglect this s***

Men in general do got a lot of work that needs to be done and some of that is no responsibility but their own but that doesn’t mean their problems need to be rendered invisible for some sense of representation liberal equality in a capitalist system

S***s being gone about the wrong way and you’re pushing the generations of soon to be men in the meat grinder as well by ignoring the issues men face today

Both men’s and women’s issues should be talked about. not one or the other on some rеtardеd gender wars s***

healthier men = healthier families, communities, and world.
watch somebody try and cook me for this post though

spongebob

2y

Ignoring men’s issues on the left is how the right wing grifters got a monopoly on young men and broad swathes overall

Just handing them over to fascist-lite idiots because “at least they’re paying attention to what i go through”

Harlem

2y

What are men's issues

AlephLance

2y

America needs a black woman president. Trump is dangerous and people are so desensitized and docile. The fact that trump even has this much support is embarrassing. this election isn't even about who becomes president, it's become a test for humanity. I'm lowkey about to leave the country if Trump wins, I don't want to be here.

thundagod

2y

Saw this s*** live