Some of yall are living in some make believe fantasy land that a white mf is gonna care that niggas name is Oluwatobi Adebayo vs DaMarcus Johnson? G yall niggas need to READ A F***ING BOOK

Yes everyone is black in America yadda yadda but you don’t people receive different treatment because of their name ?

Would some 1st gen bloke with generations going back to the same corner of London winning a Best Rap Album be considered white american history?

And would it be their right to claim they built America in the follow up speech on any given day? considering the britts got kicked out which established the beginning thread in how the country began to take shape

It's complicated but I like to look at history as a whole, the context is for the historians. He could've expressed his gratitude without borrowing a history foreign to his own.

While we are talking about identity here should be important to note the impact of class status as well

You giving white people a lot of grace while having all this smoke for people that look like you.

if you could prove otherwise go at it known fact Black Americans are more discriminated on than Africans

Light skin black people face less discrimination than darkskin black people. Why ain't we doing a referendum on that?

Enslaved black people built the country that is America. Did immigrants contribute to this? Absolutely. The foundation is chattel slavery tho full stop.

Black people built the railroads, led to the textile global boom, sugar, tobacco, etc. domestically insurance companies and banks who are Fortune 500 companies still have Atlantic slave trade ties.

in my experience as an American born African - you're a nigga 'until proven otherwise'. I think it's kinda f***ed up how sometimes I'll walk up to someone and you see them tense up a bit or grab their purse, and then over the conversation they have to slowly acclimate and start to feel safe. "You're one of the good ones" type of deal

It’s no way you gathered that from my posts.

It definitely is we all look the same to the cops situation. My point was to @Skrilla was that people are in fact treated differently by their name. Discrimination is discrimination, but how it reveals itself varies especially when we think of naming conventions. There’d been studies out the ass about who gets callbacks for jobs and who doesn’t based on their name

G you're dense.

It is verifiably proven, that yes simply having an black American name & African sounding name you are around 50% less likely to receive a callback from a job vs people with conventional Judeo-Christian names.

It's plenty niggas born in America with regular ass Judeo-Christian names. Less so than in Africa, if you're going comparatively by ratio. So a nigga named Chris D***erson vs Kwesi Addo, who you think that white mf is gone call back first?

You getting mad at the nigga next to you, when you should be mad at the white mf that is perpetrating the system

Who said I’m not upset at the system? I quietly literally talked about the longevity of colonialism that’s still happening to this DAY. You taking anything I’ve written as some personal attack on people across the diaspora is just you misreading my words or projection. You pick

I got the same smoke for any African or Carribbean that says Black Americans are lazy.

The larger point is all that s*** is a distraction from the main enemy. That is white supremacy. That doesn't necessarily mean white people, but anybody who upholds that system. It's plenty of Uncle Toms that fall under that too. Given the political climate, G go look at Marco Rubio's speech in Germany. That man got a standing ovation for basically ushering in a new age of colonialism.

I apologize then. I been going back and forth with FBA niggas on twitter the last few days, so I'm very combative on this topic.

I mean that’s why we’re discussing the topic to begin with. Understanding has to be reached before we can every mobilize and unite on one accord. You’re just not approaching it with any nuance. Again, it’s not good enough to say “we all the same” to valid critiques about why we find ourselves in diaspora wars every 4 business days lmao.

Can you point out any industry where lightskins niggas are over represented outside of movies

nearly half the black ivy league population are Africans
45 percent of black medical students are Africans
over 30 percent of black doctors are Africans
over 30 percent of black stem degree holders are African
over 25 percent black college graduates are Africa

keep in mind African brehs are only like 10 percent of the black population ..

Also my mom is African so I'm not just being xenophobic I'm just saying black Americans and Africans aren't just looked at as "black"

If that was the case this class and income gap wouldn't be so damn big

Was a good run but now the thread is unraveling

Wait nvm I misread that

@TUNDRAIV

Diaspora wars online are cia psy-ops tbh.

Tariq’s an agent and the sooner brodie gets ** the better off all black people will be.

Niggas want to be victims so bad.

A fresh off the boat immigrant is definitely getting treated worse than any Black American, by BOTH Black Americans and White people.

Like people have said before, this infighting is mad orchestrated and needlessly divisive.